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Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 2x03 - "Assimilation"

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Avro Arrow said:
Star Trek was shown to not be our reality as early as the late 1960s when they travelled back to then-present day Earth in "Assignment: Earth" and had the US launching orbital nuclear weapons platforms to counter the previously-launched Soviet orbital nuclear weapons platforms.
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That's the day it all changed. Kirk split the timeline :eek:
 
Ray Hardgrit said:
Also Space Seed was about a genetically engineered superman from the 90s... who was in his 40s. He was born years before the episode aired.
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Assuming the "supermen" reach maturity at the sane rate as "normal" people. It's possible they become fully grown much sooner.
 
There was a base line human growing up along side Adrik Soong's Super babies.

Comics had Khan as a teen age gimp slum dog who was kidnapped and then experimented on in the 70s.

Novels and Enterprise had genetically engineered fetuses.
 
XCV330 said:
I like that Trek takes place in a parallel world but not entirely the same as ours.

If people are going to continue to watch it into the succeeding decades it has to get reboot or understood. Otherwise the writers will constantly have to reboot the entire franchise and cede ground so to speak every few years or else put all the events of Star Trek a century or more into the future.
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I'm personally waiting to see what they're doing when First Contact Day comes and goes. The date is drawing nearer.
 
BK613 said:
Down a bit this week mostly because
the Rios part felt a bit contrived. The one of three that could be mistaken as an undocumented Latino/Hispanic of the 21 century is the one that gets injured and is taken to a clinic that helps the undocumented, which of course gets raided on the day he is there. Liked the actual scenes at the clinic though.
A good solid 8.

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Well, yeah. And in "Past Tense" the two people of color were immediately locked up, while the white woman was helped by a kind stranger and taken straight into high society. Why are stories like that something to avoid? It seems to me a key reason you would want to do a time travel story in the first place.

SJGardner said:
The sunshine, the oppressive heat, and the omnipresent juxtaposition of opulence with squalor and decay... as a foreigner, I couldn't find a better way to describe LA if I tried, and they were all there in this episode.
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As an LA resident who literally decided just 2 days ago I can't take it anymore and started planning my move, I cannot tell you how perfect your phrasing is. I may start quoting it in real life when asked to explain why I am leaving.

Trekker4747 said:
I'll have to give that 2-parter another watch; but it's crazy to me we've reached the "future'" date visited by Modern Trek.
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I remember being a kid watching Berman Trek, and thinking, didn't those 60's writers know that we'd still be parsing all this decades later?!?! Why did they set the Eugenics Wars in the 90's?!? They should have known the show would endure long enough for this to become a continuity error! :biggrin:

Of course, I had no similar thoughts watching "Past Tense." Or "First Contact" for that matter! 2024 and 2063 both seemed impossibly distant at the time.

XCV330 said:
I like that Trek takes place in a parallel world but not entirely the same as ours.

If people are going to continue to watch it into the succeeding decades it has to get reboot or understood. Otherwise the writers will constantly have to reboot the entire franchise and cede ground so to speak every few years or else put all the events of Star Trek a century or more into the future.
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Nerys Myk said:
I'm fine with that. Just keep pushing it forward.
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Markonian said:
I'm personally waiting to see what they're doing when First Contact Day comes and goes. The date is drawing nearer.
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Count me in the "keep pushing it forward" camp. Star Trek is our future. If you need an explanation for any predictions that didn't match actual reality -- those 29th Century time cops fixed it. :biggrin:

If I'm still around at age 82 when we hit actual First Contact Day, I will then be willing to consider Star Trek has diverged from our timeline. But not a minute before!

Until then, they can just keep up with brilliant and lacerating reconciliations, like representing modern homeless encampments as they actually exist, just adding a Sanctuary District sign.

jackoverfull said:
i’ll turn 75 on that day, I plan to hold a huge Star Trek costume party with me as the Vulcan ambassador.
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Given how accurate the Sanctuary District prediction has turned out to be, you may also get to meet some actual aliens on your 75th. :bolian:

cooleddie74 said:
Chris Brynner of Channel 90 is still part of 2020s continuity based on a Los Angeles newspaper headline so I guess some things didn't change at all when Q went back to tamper with history.
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Oh yeah, Channel 90! Another streaming service we all have to sign up for... (Not to mention Net Access and Interface Operations)
 
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Sakonna said:
Count me in the "keep pushing it forward" camp. Star Trek is our future. If you need an explanation for any predictions that didn't match actual reality -- those 29th Century time cops fixed it. :biggrin:
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I get that, but I'd rather star trek stay relatively consistent instead of the timey wimey morass that Dr. Who became, reinvented on the whim of a show runner every few years. I don't expect it to work perfectly. And as far as pushing forward, it is all the way into the 32nd century now.
 
cooleddie74 said:
Chris Brynner of Channel 90 is still part of 2020s continuity based on a Los Angeles newspaper headline so I guess some things didn't change at all when Q went back to tamper with history.
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I doubt Q changed time.

Q was calling a Picard a prideful fool, and blaming Picard for everything that went wrong.

Maybe Picard tries to makes things better, when for histories sake they are supposed to get worse first, which leads to the Confederation timeline.

What if Picard accidentally kills Sisko, after Sisko accidentally kills Bell, and Picard has to start the riot, but choses not to, to avoid the massive loss of life?
 
XCV330 said:
I get that, but I'd rather star trek stay relatively consistent instead of the timey wimey morass that Dr. Who became, reinvented on the whim of a show runner every few years. I don't expect it to work perfectly. And as far as pushing forward, it is all the way into the 32nd century now.
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I think that's a reasonable view as well, it definitely makes sense to me that some consider the Trekverse an alternate timeline to our own.

I will just never join any of you in that view -- at least, not before 4/5/63. :biggrin: (Hopefully this doesn't end up with me in a full cult, waiting on the roof for the aliens to land...)
 
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