This isn’t about closure for the cast, this wouldn’t be happening if CBS wasn’t sure they’d make a boatload of money off of it.
It is capitalism taking advantage of nostalgia.
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This isn’t about closure for the cast, this wouldn’t be happening if CBS wasn’t sure they’d make a boatload of money off of it.
It is capitalism taking advantage of nostalgia.
Well, we don't really know that for sure do we? Season 3 might be the adventures of our crew in the Confederation timeline!Way to spoil the fact that somehow, some way, our heroes will get out of this season's debacle!!! What a shocker!
But seriously, my guess is that they do fix the timeline this season (shocker, I know!) but they still have to deal with the Borg that we see at the beginning of the season.
Data is dead. Riker and Troi are both retired and living on Nepenthe. Geordie is off on Utopia Planitia. Worf may be either retired or back to being an Ambassador.
It's going to take some dramatic heavy lifting to put these people on the same ship together again.
It's going to take some dramatic heavy lifting to put these people on the same ship together again.
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I agree with you that it would be inappropriate for Star Trek: Picard to just become Star Trek: 2 Next 2 Generation, but I think that there are ways to incorporate the TNG crew into PIC without them overwhelming the narrative. And I see no reason whatsoever to assume that the original PIC cast members won't return. Hell, I think it would be pretty damn awesome to see TNG characters paired up with PIC characters -- Worf meeting Seven of Nine, LaForge meeting Soji as his best friend's daughter, Crusher meeting Jurati, Riker meeting Rios, Deanna meeting Raffi.
Also, I hope this means we'll see Kestra again. She was a very cool character and her scenes with Soji were wonderful.
You mean S1, right?
Also, what I wrote is just this: Those who don't want to see essential elements of S3 could simply avoid it. And if they do wanna see them, those elements can't be as unwanted as they say.
Generally, we could simply postpone all of this nonsense to a point when we actually know the story, how much each actor is involved, what kinds of scenes they have, if and how much the current cast actually is sidelined, etc.
Wait wait. You're saying we should wait until we have solid information before jumping to conclusions???
And my simple question is: Why should a TNG character show with a TNG character title have as few TNG characters as possible? Why shouldn't it have more?
I think what makes it appropriate to bring the TNG cast back is that Star Trek: Picard is about the character of Jean-Luc Picard before it's about anything else, and to that end bringing back the most important relationships in his life as the series reaches its conclusion -- and possibly as the character reaches its end -- is an appropriate way to bring emotional resolution to the character. But I also think that Star Trek: Picard is not Star Trek: The Next Generation, and needs to retain its distinct identity, both to avoid undermining Picard as a narrative but also to avoid undermining The Next Generation as a narrative.
This is all just speculation, but I could imagine a scenario where Alton has to come back and gets paired up with LaForge and Soji. There's also the potential for thematically appropriate flashback scenes featuring new footage of Spiner as Data. It would be pretty cool to see a couple of re-creations of TNG sets.
But who knows? There are plenty of options for Spiner.Killing a character can be a completely valid creative choice. It was appropriate for Iron Man to die at the end of Avengers: Endgame; it was appropriate for Kirk to die at the end of Star Trek: Generations; it was appropriate for Han Solo and Luke Skywalker to die at the end of Star Wars: Episode VII - The Force Awakens and Star Wars: Episode VIII - The Last Jedi; it was appropriate for Sirius Black and Albus Dumbledore to die in Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix and Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince; it was appropriate for Shepherd Book and Hoban Wash to die in Serenity; it was appropriate for Charles Xavier and the title character to die in Logan; it was appropriate for Spock to die in Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan.
If the series finale of Star Trek: Picard features the final passing of Jean-Luc Picard, that would be thematically appropriate.
Excellent point.
Guess the TOS movies weren't TOS reunions then! Nor Star Trek: Nemesis.
I mean... they were out of ideas in the later seasons of VOY and the first two seasons of ENT.
I mean, I would say Red Letter Media made their name ragging on the Star Wars prequel films, but, yeah, I don't have a lot of respect for their newer work.
Icheb and Maddox legendary ????
It definitely serves as a closure for them. And, yeah, CBS will make money too. Just like The Undiscovered Country.
But, sure, keep grinding your ax over this.
Wow, you must be fun at parties!bleh that's super disappointingthank the stars it's only for one season
IDIC alive and well.
They prefer looking at the future instead of the past
There is no axe to grind, I've said that I hope it is successful. But you're kidding yourself if you think this is happening for any other reason than CBS believing they will make a lot of money off of it.
I've found looking towards the future or being realistic about the past is no longer welcome among a lot of people.
All Good Things meets The Undiscovered Country. This is what this sounds like
Thing is AGT never felt like a finale to me as they went straight into Generations
I think this is very good news. From my perspective, there have been 3 real blots on the ST franchise, that really left a stench.
1) The inglorious cancellation of TOS. No finale.
It is a TV show. It happens this way all the time. The TOS crew got a proper send-off in The Voyage Home. This was remedied. Now, Kirk, Spock, McCoy, Scotty, Sulu, Checkov, Rand, & Uhuru would all be back, either as themselves or with different actors), but TVH was their last hurrah together for the original cast.
2) Nemesis.
What a low point for the TNG crew to go out on. I don't despise it as some do, but hard not to say it was a low point. Hopefully Picard S3 fixes that.
3) These Are the Voyages.
Bringing in TNG cast for the Enterprise finale. Don't know how they fix it. Maybe SNW. Though I don't know if any ENT cast would be interested.
But if a lot of the Picard cast are not back for S3, I hope they don't get unceriminiously dumped, but get a proper send-off.
1) The inglorious cancellation of TOS. No finale.
It is a TV show. It happens this way all the time. The TOS crew got a proper send-off in The Voyage Home. This was remedied. Now, Kirk, Spock, McCoy, Scotty, Sulu, Checkov, Rand, & Uhuru would all be back, either as themselves or with different actors), but TVH was their last hurrah together for the original cast.
2) Nemesis.
What a low point for the TNG crew to go out on. I don't despise it as some do, but hard not to say it was a low point. Hopefully Picard S3 fixes that.
3) These Are the Voyages.
Bringing in TNG cast for the Enterprise finale. Don't know how they fix it. Maybe SNW. Though I don't know if any ENT cast would be interested.
But if a lot of the Picard cast are not back for S3, I hope they don't get unceriminiously dumped, but get a proper send-off.
They're mixing two and three together. So hang on tight!
I agree with this. Worf really blossomed on DS9. It'll be great seeing him again.
Is ST6 so bad it's not considered a TOS sendoff?
More like raining on people's parade. Never cool. But, sure everyone is entitled to their opinion.
Likely just mixed the two films up.
There's no raining on anyone's parade. If one is comfortable in their views, a little dissenting opinion shouldn't bother them.
