Spoilers ST Picard - Starships and Technology Season Two Discussion
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Those drones are VERY advanced unless we have anything remotely capable of emitting beams that can block UV, and simultaneously sterilizing the air or whatever? It's not our history, but I don't know why you'd go to the expense of animating them at all under these circumstances. Why not simulate an airlock tent?
Speaking of unusual situations, did Kore Soong REALLY have a mom who could swim like a duck? I've got "Prospero made a clone" vibes. Adam Soong's Rib.
Speaking of unusual situations, did Kore Soong REALLY have a mom who could swim like a duck? I've got "Prospero made a clone" vibes. Adam Soong's Rib.
Current Samsung Z phones can emit an EMP??
Could it be the same office Gary had, just decades of redecorating later?
For the amount they cost in 2022, they darn well better.
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Different Supervisors, different cities and offices...Could it be the same office Gary had, just decades of redecorating later?
Picard having forcefields in 2024 when ENT struggled with them in 2151.
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It's a different timeline
It only starts being a different timeline three days later. Or did the rules change again?
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This has been explained already by the production team. If the future of the Star Trek universe is changed, then that changes time travel from that future into the past, which also changes the past. For example – 21st century Guinan doesn't recognise Picard in PIC: "Watcher", despite having already met him in the 19th century in TNG: "Time's Arrow", because General Picard from the evil timeline never went back to 1893 San Francisco, and that's now the dominant timeline. They used exactly the same argument to explain pre-Nero differences in the Kelvin timeline too. Why is this so hard for people to understand? Do I have to break out this gif again?
This has been explained already by the production team. If the future of the Star Trek universe is changed, then that changes time travel from that future into the past, which also changes the past. For example – 21st century Guinan doesn't recognise Picard in PIC: "Watcher", despite having already met him in the 19th century in TNG: "Time's Arrow", because General Picard from the evil timeline never went back to 1893 San Francisco, and that's now the dominant timeline. They used exactly the same argument to explain pre-Nero differences in the Kelvin timeline too. Why is this so hard for people to understand? Do I have to break out this gif again?
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But there is something wrong with the production team's logic though. If 2024 timeline is already different because "Time's Arrow" and a host of other trips into the past didn't happen then what is Team Picard fixing in 2024? They cannot be fixing anything that would lead to the future Picard knows since the 2024 timeline is already not the same as the original.
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But there is something wrong with the production team's logic though. If 2024 timeline is already different because "Time's Arrow" and a host of other trips into the past didn't happen then what is Team Picard fixing in 2024? They cannot be fixing anything that would lead to the future Picard knows since the 2024 timeline is already not the same as the original.
This would be the other gif I use for time travel issues:
Time travel in inherently paradoxical if you analyse it, that's one of the biggest problems with it as a plot device. How can Picard be aware of the changes to this timeline but not in TNG: "Yesterday's Enterprise"? How can any timeline be said to be "correct" over any other? If there's a single preferred future for the Star Trek universe shouldn't someone somewhere be undoing the Kelvin timeline as a problematic divergent timeline? Star Trek has at best only ever been vaguely consistent with time travel, and Picard has the ultimate get-out clause as its trump card – "Q did it".
This has been explained already by the production team. If the future of the Star Trek universe is changed, then that changes time travel from that future into the past, which also changes the past. For example – 21st century Guinan doesn't recognise Picard in PIC: "Watcher", despite having already met him in the 19th century in TNG: "Time's Arrow", because General Picard from the evil timeline never went back to 1893 San Francisco, and that's now the dominant timeline. They used exactly the same argument to explain pre-Nero differences in the Kelvin timeline too. Why is this so hard for people to understand? Do I have to break out this gif again?
So, does that mean that once they correct the timeline, Adam Soong’s forcefield drones no longer exist? Because that was the point @F. King Daniel was making.
I think "Q did it" works best for Picard series. The other aspect of Star Trek is that they also have multiple universes that are not divergent timelines. That allows for maximum inconsistency to work across different series
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Yes.
Why would they no longer exist?
Because whatever past changes caused by different future time travel stories that led to them to be invented early will revert to the original interactions twixt future and past.
