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Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 2x03 - "Assimilation"
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Janeway said they could've worn their uniforms in 96 and no one would've noticed
I understand that in preparing to film Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home they sent people out into the streets of San Francisco wearing the costumes Kirk and co would be wearing, to see if they attracted any undue attention from the public. Nobody gave them a second glance.
A couple of possible 12 Monkeys easter egg references this week!
But the fun part is that this was apparently the Korean Air logo in the 1960s!
And on an unrelated note... it looks like the Federation Starfleet decided to base their famous motto on early 21st-century marketing for the Europa Mission!
- When the Borg Queen prepares for time travel, one of her lines is "Initiating tachyon-splinter radiation bursts". The time travel project in 12 Monkeys was known as Project Splinter, and each instance of using their time machine began with the order "Initiate splinter sequence".
- Raffi identified the highest point in LA in 2024 as the "Markridge Industrial Tower". In 12 Monkeys, Markridge Group was a biotech company that was
responsible for the Kalavirus.
But the fun part is that this was apparently the Korean Air logo in the 1960s!
And on an unrelated note... it looks like the Federation Starfleet decided to base their famous motto on early 21st-century marketing for the Europa Mission!
Huh. I thought that was Pepsi product placement.
Other than any insignia and stuff on them there's nothing inherently "strange looking" about their clothes, particularly given the range of what people wear today AND in Los Angeles.
While in the clinic the head doctor mentions Rios' "weird clothes." Other than them maybe feeling weird because they're made out of some future/alien/replicated material she's not familiar with there was nothing strange *looking* about Rios' clothes.
While in the clinic the head doctor mentions Rios' "weird clothes." Other than them maybe feeling weird because they're made out of some future/alien/replicated material she's not familiar with there was nothing strange *looking* about Rios' clothes.
IIRC, this was where the big Summer of the Borg (my unofficial name for it) Convention was held during the TNG hiatus between BoBW parts 1 and 2 ?
What a ride that con was. No con ever matched it for fun. Went up to the Obs deck, saw LA view from there. That Borg walking around, went on to win the costume contest. Everyone in the building probably got photos (before selfies) with him assimilating them. The only con I ever saw Majel Barrett and Gene, who introduced Berman as his successor in a standing room only auditorium.
Maybe it has a tag inside that says "Imperial Confederation Colonel Cristobal Rios"
I'm wavering between a 7 and 8 for this episode. I feel generous so it gets an 8. It's a fun, good episode. Not quite as good as the previous too, but very enjoyable. The cast as a whole is a key reason for that. I enjoy all the characters. But special mention for Jurati in this episode. Her portrayal of the inner battle with the Queen was excellent!
The scenes with the Queen were great. However, I don't want them dragged out. So far, it's been good. But I can see it getting old if it continues. We'll see. As some others have said, I think there are good odds that Jurati is the Queen that boards Stargazer.
Seven is an awesome character in this series and particularly this season. I like her more on Picard than on VOY.
Rios and his close calls with his comm badge were borderline slapstick. No thanks. But the rest of his stuff in the clinic were nicely done.
Hopefully, next week we meet the Watcher.
The scenes with the Queen were great. However, I don't want them dragged out. So far, it's been good. But I can see it getting old if it continues. We'll see. As some others have said, I think there are good odds that Jurati is the Queen that boards Stargazer.
Seven is an awesome character in this series and particularly this season. I like her more on Picard than on VOY.
Rios and his close calls with his comm badge were borderline slapstick. No thanks. But the rest of his stuff in the clinic were nicely done.
Hopefully, next week we meet the Watcher.
If Soji is there, they don't need the Borg Queen to time travel. Soji could do it. You would not have the Seven/Borg issues and the Picard/Borg issues and the Jurati/assimilation issues.
I mean, I guess you could have had the first one with Seven's implants gone, but not the others.
This is a pretty good episode and better than episode 2. The only real problems I have with this episode are the first 25 minutes are really the finale to the second episode and a buildup to itself, and there's Raffi. It would have been much better placing the cliffhanger where the final phaser fight ends, for hopefully obvious reasons. Then the episode could have resolved that cliffhanger in its first moment, the space battle could have been resolved by warping away, then the chasing ships destroy themselves as they attempt to match the time travel course around the sun, and then Picard could have revealed he has a plan, just to speed up the beam-out, which is where things finally pickup.
The problem with Raffi reacting so strongly is we, the audience, have no basis for her outburst. We know Raffi likes Elnor, based on the first season and this season, we also know she is his commanding officer, but none of that connects to her outburst. Nothing happened before now to establish Elnor as Raffi's surrogate son, nor the representation of her life being rebuilt, nor her lover. This also plays into the question of how much Raffi has actually healed, and is she relapsing?
Credit to the episode, she isn't being displayed as correct, just dangerously driven, especially with how she brushes off Seven's attempt at support. That's actually a great little scene, because Seven went through losing Echeb not long ago. And on the topic of great scenes, I think Rios' stuff is all great. Jurati, Picard, and the Queen are a little weak because it drags, and the twist is pretty obvious, but it comes off as setup for later fun. That's a mixed bag because I'm tired of setup rather than execution.
Call outs to the Sanctuary Districts, well the general DS9 episode with that is spot on and appreciated. "Past Tense"?
Also, Seven being treated like any person and being amazed by the experience is great. There' an internal aspect I hope will be stated, without her implants she is supposed to have a full range of emotions which were otherwise suppressed, and she does show happiness to a level which she hasn't ever shown in season 1 nor VOY. She should be feeling more like herself than she has since she was a child, pre-assimilation.
Also, interesting how they're really going for assimilation is a drug. I know they brought that up for Seven in season 1, but I took it as a unique perspective for her, not the universal perception until Picard mentions the experience as euphoric. I think I'm disappointed by that.
The problem with Raffi reacting so strongly is we, the audience, have no basis for her outburst. We know Raffi likes Elnor, based on the first season and this season, we also know she is his commanding officer, but none of that connects to her outburst. Nothing happened before now to establish Elnor as Raffi's surrogate son, nor the representation of her life being rebuilt, nor her lover. This also plays into the question of how much Raffi has actually healed, and is she relapsing?
Credit to the episode, she isn't being displayed as correct, just dangerously driven, especially with how she brushes off Seven's attempt at support. That's actually a great little scene, because Seven went through losing Echeb not long ago. And on the topic of great scenes, I think Rios' stuff is all great. Jurati, Picard, and the Queen are a little weak because it drags, and the twist is pretty obvious, but it comes off as setup for later fun. That's a mixed bag because I'm tired of setup rather than execution.
Call outs to the Sanctuary Districts, well the general DS9 episode with that is spot on and appreciated. "Past Tense"?
Also, Seven being treated like any person and being amazed by the experience is great. There' an internal aspect I hope will be stated, without her implants she is supposed to have a full range of emotions which were otherwise suppressed, and she does show happiness to a level which she hasn't ever shown in season 1 nor VOY. She should be feeling more like herself than she has since she was a child, pre-assimilation.
Also, interesting how they're really going for assimilation is a drug. I know they brought that up for Seven in season 1, but I took it as a unique perspective for her, not the universal perception until Picard mentions the experience as euphoric. I think I'm disappointed by that.
Snowpiercer, baby.
Re: Borg Queen.
She obviously needs them to do something she cannot. She needs the timeline reset/fixed as well, remember.
I suspect Rios may have a moment with the doctor and the little boy like Kirk did in City on the Edge of Forever.
It was more sensible at that point not to make a scene, especially as he had confidence she'd give it back soon.
What he did made sense. Making a scene would draw even more unwanted attention.
My guess at this stage is Jurati will try go into the Queen again to get more information and become the masked queen.
Also I love how 7 has finally realized that she is so incredibly beautiful that people will just do what she says.
I wonder is Soji not really in this season or will she be this seasons last ride of the Rohirrim (Kurtz Trek really does love to do this)
Also I love how 7 has finally realized that she is so incredibly beautiful that people will just do what she says.
I wonder is Soji not really in this season or will she be this seasons last ride of the Rohirrim (Kurtz Trek really does love to do this)
50 plus year old lesbians are "sweet and heartening" not hot.
Grandmas over coming the oppression of being born in unenlightened restrictive times.
Grandmas over coming the oppression of being born in unenlightened restrictive times.
Please dial back the...Guyness.
Jeri Ryan, regardless of her age, is still "hot." Certainly enough to get cis-men to just obey her.
She thinks it's because of the loss of her Borg implants. Oh, Seven. Living in such progressive times.... Welcome to the 21st century.
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