Rios (reading an ipad): Hey doesn't this Gabriel Bell guy in the news look a lot like Benjamin Sisko?
Picard: That IS Benjamin Sisko! He must be the watcher! Last I heard he's an ascended prophet or something. Come on, let's go find him!
Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 2x03 - "Assimilation"
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Picard: That IS Benjamin Sisko! He must be the watcher! Last I heard he's an ascended prophet or something. Come on, let's go find him!
Totally agree. I put all the failures last year on the writing, I didn't hear Seven's voice in there either. The interviews where Jeri talks about how she struggling to find it drive me nuts. Like, if the actress doesn't hear the character, that means it was written wrong and they need to take another pass. It was a real producing failure to not be more in conversation with her. She should have felt 1000% with their take on the character by the time she stepped on set.
This season it feels like they've figured it out. These scripts have Seven's voice in an updated way, rather than an all-new voice.
By the way, here is the sling slot clip:
I did not notice this on my first viewing but you can see the sparks go down, slow down, stop, and then fly up, showing the moment when time slowed down, stopped and then reversed. Pretty cool!
I did not notice this on my first viewing but you can see the sparks go down, slow down, stop, and then fly up, showing the moment when time slowed down, stopped and then reversed. Pretty cool!
"You ever heard of the Bell Riots?"
"That was a prog rock band in the early 21st century right?"
"No, the events that band was named after."
"The incident where 250 housewives trampled one another to death for cheap bell peppers when the price plummeted?"
"I'm going to stop talking to you."
"That was a prog rock band in the early 21st century right?"
"No, the events that band was named after."
"The incident where 250 housewives trampled one another to death for cheap bell peppers when the price plummeted?"
"I'm going to stop talking to you."
It'd be amusing for Sisko and Picard to run into each other in this era of all places. So, hypothetically speaking, let's say Picard and friends are in LA and it's September (as a resident of Socal, you absolutely cannot pinpoint when in the year this season takes place so far. Hilariously, not even with the fires) and the Bell Riots happen in SF around this time. Who can explain the time-foolery of Picard coming from one version of the future and Sisko, Dax, and Bashir coming from another where the Defiant is actively attempting to rescue them? Is this one of those things where like, both potential futures exist because of....flux, or something?
I think he was just remembering what Q asked him in the previous episode, but maybe because of stress thought he was really there?
That's credible.
But I hope it will be confirmed (throwaway line) at some point that Sisko returned quickly in 2375 or 2376 to be with Captain Yates and their child, otherwise it's another unfortunate example of the "absent Black father" trope.
It's a long drive from LA to SF. I hope they pack snacks.
Rios: Seriously? Why did we come all the way back to 2024 to talk to Benjamin Sisko when we've been playing impromptu baseball with him for years in our own time and could just ask him then? And he's a watcher? Every time I tried to ask him about the prophet thing I just get "No comment".
Picard:
I've made the drive in real life. We've had far more unrealistic travel times in Star Trek.
Rios fall and meeting the doctor and the clinic were nice parallels to Chekov falling from the Enterprise deck and Rain Robinson. They didn't move the plot, but they did slow the pacing in a way that was welcome.
Anne Wersching is bringing surprisingly new dimensions to the Borg queen: more slitherey, more devious, still slightly sexy.
ETA: wouldn't Griffith Park Observatory be a better place to conduct scans, allowing them to reach both the basin and the valley?
Anne Wersching is bringing surprisingly new dimensions to the Borg queen: more slitherey, more devious, still slightly sexy.
ETA: wouldn't Griffith Park Observatory be a better place to conduct scans, allowing them to reach both the basin and the valley?
Just as long as they don't say that in the new timeline, the clinic mom lived and stopped WWIII, so Rios has to let her die to restore the timeline. That would be too much like City on the Edge of Forever.
Rios lets the kid get hit by a car.
"I'm pretty sure he was gonna be the next Colonel Green!"
Raffi's been reading too many Voyager logs: "We fix time we get Elnor back?"
Sadly, I think he's staying dead. It's a sure way to strengthen the bond between her and Seven, since they both lost an adopted son and can lean on each other for support.
Sadly, I think he's staying dead. It's a sure way to strengthen the bond between her and Seven, since they both lost an adopted son and can lean on each other for support.
The whole logistics of this misadventure don't make sense. We don't even have any determination for what allowed these specific characters to retain their memories in the new timeline other than that they're real life regulars of the Picard tv show. It's not who was on the Stargazer as Raffi and Elnor weren't there, and it's not the Starfleet squadron otherwise the Confederation would have had an entire uprising of an army of people who remembered the Prime Timeline.
Furthermore, Q specifically mentioned that Picard's new body was also synth, and Seven's body has never had enhancements. That means that Elnor, Picard, Seven, weren't physically transported to the new timeline, but had their minds transplanted into the bodies of their evil counterparts. In the event that Elnor's "real" body is still alive, it may be possible that he does indeed survive, but it's also possible this would just be evil Elnor in real Elnor's body or something.
I'm not so sure the Confederation timeline's Elnor would be evil. He's a rebel/freedom fighter against an oppressive regime in this AU, but still was raised by the Qowat Milat (or was at least trained by them). He'd probably be more akin to Major Kira in early DS9, only with even less filter.
So basically we'd get alternate universe Elnor who'd have to go through Starfleet Academy all over again. Great.
Nice episode, though a bit of a slower pace than the previous two. I liked the various dialogue homages, including from STIV:
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Plus, when La Sirena starts plummeting to Earth, I got vibes of STiD:
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Plus, when La Sirena starts plummeting to Earth, I got vibes of STiD:
Well, this was fine, I guess. Really ok.
The fun bits worked best for me, including Agnes' Daddy issues with Picard, and Rios committing everything that he was warned against. Hospital, losing his badge... lol
I'm not the leastinterested in his predictable romance with Capable Doctor And Fabulous Single Mom, or of the extended getting-rid-of-HansenHubby and assimilation scenes. Are they trying to drag this out over two seasons? I mean, I'm not advocating for more action, but if you do character work, please make it engaging...
More of my thoughts later.
Certainly not in service of a Raffi and/ or Seven plot, they seem to be second tier after Picard and Jurati, plus Rios, if this episode is anything to go by.
My conviction that he won't stay dead made me somewhat detached from the whole Raffi/ Elnor drama.
ETA: Haven't read this thread yet. Am I still the only one taken out of the story by the group scenes, when the actors are often not in the same room? I wish I wouldn't notice it.
She really loves to blame others, preferably Picard, for her problems or... anything, really. I'm not impressed.
The fun bits worked best for me, including Agnes' Daddy issues with Picard, and Rios committing everything that he was warned against. Hospital, losing his badge... lol
I'm not the leastinterested in his predictable romance with Capable Doctor And Fabulous Single Mom, or of the extended getting-rid-of-HansenHubby and assimilation scenes. Are they trying to drag this out over two seasons? I mean, I'm not advocating for more action, but if you do character work, please make it engaging...
More of my thoughts later.
No way will they kill him off for good.
Certainly not in service of a Raffi and/ or Seven plot, they seem to be second tier after Picard and Jurati, plus Rios, if this episode is anything to go by.
My conviction that he won't stay dead made me somewhat detached from the whole Raffi/ Elnor drama.
ETA: Haven't read this thread yet. Am I still the only one taken out of the story by the group scenes, when the actors are often not in the same room? I wish I wouldn't notice it.