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Spoilers Starship Design in Star Trek: Picard
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I'm happy to assume that this isn't the case, or else they should've sent the USS Sagan to replace the Stargazer.
I think there was some mention that the use of the STO Andromeda class, instead of the Ross, would have been more consistent with a fleet including the Sutherland class. The Ross type probably got the nod, at least in part, for it's non-similar deflector dish. After catching all that stick for the Inquiry ad infinitum fleet from season 1, the art department would have wanted the new fleet to be as visually distinct as possible.
The stargazer isn’t a cryptic model though.
I mean Starfleet should've sent the USS Sagan, not Cryptic. The Sagan-class Stargazer just feels a bit out of place next to the Ross-class USS Ross, the Gagarin-class USS Gagarin, the Reliant-class USS Reliant, the Sutherland-class USS Sutherland etc.
...and the Akira-class USS Thunderchild?
We weirdly encounter the first ship of a class in Trek a lot anyway. The Kumari-class Kumari, the D'Kyr-class D'Kyr, the Curry-class USS Curry, the Yeager-class USS Yeager, Dauntless-class USS Dauntless, etc.
Actually, none of those ships were mentioned on screen as the first ship of their class. The only reason why official publications make that distinction is because there was no other canon information about their class names, so the people writing those publications just assumed the name of the ship was also an indication of its class. Which, in my opinion, is at best wrong and at worst lazy.
Ah, ok, I had forgotten about that. Of course, we have no idea if pre-Federation Andoria gave the first ship of their class the class name. Certainly the NX class’s first ship wasn’t called the NX.
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Actually official publications tend to refer to them as -type under these circumstances, rather than -class. Most famously this is done with the USS Centaur, which is only regularly referred to as Centaur-class in beta canon and by fans.
I really like the idea of establishing a 23rd Century lineage for ships named Stargazer.
Jesus that ship is ugly.
This. Plus, there's a certain consistency: Both the 23rd Century-era shuttle seen in "The Star Gazer" and the 23rd Century-era ship seen in "Maps and Legends" were used to transport people from one point on Earth's surface to another. It seems quite plausible to me that a well-maintained century-old shuttle might only be used for intra-planetary transport.
I don't know why the PIC production team didn't just save money by depicting the admiral as beaming to Picard's house instead of spending the money rendering a shuttle landing.
I think the simplest explanation is just to assume that Seven was speaking inaccurately and that the Stargazer was one of the first couple of Sagan-class ships.
I mean, it's certainly possible that the NCC-21445 is of the same class as the NCC-2000 and that the one we saw in "The Star Gazer" was the 21445. However, I'm disinclined to accept barely-legible-on-high-def okudagrams from the era where onscreen displays weren't meant to be seen on standard def TVs as canonically binding. I'm more likely to consider onscreen displays that were designed to be clearly legible as binding, and we saw Elnor looking at a large display of an Excelsior-class starship prominently featuring the caption "NCC-2000" when he received his ship assignment. So I'm inclined to take this as retconning the 21445 out of continuity (if it was ever in continuity), and to interpret the Excelsior we saw in "The Star Gazer" as being Captain Sulu's ship.
I could be wrong, but I believe Doug Drexler has stated that the Excelsior both Raffi and Elnor are assigned to is a new ship that's still using it's famous predecessor's registry number NCC-2000, free of any archaic letter suffixes. It would make more sense to bury the actual hull build number in the transponder code that would be the primary means of ship identification, instead if cluttering up the hull with more alphanumerics. A plausible change in starfleet policy, for esthetic reasons, if nothing else.
Thanks for clarifying the issue. I haven't seen the episode yet. My daughter forbids me to watch it without her, which she refuses to do unless her school work is up to date, being a far more responsible person than I am. I've been relying on screencaps and forum/Twitter posts so far, and saw a display of the Excelsior at starfleet academy (I think) with the NCC-2000 registry and thought it was more than a historical reference.
I'm off now to see how the school work is going....
The ships displayed at the Academy were museum ships or destroyed ones. Frankly, it was an odd selection. Why was the Reliant honoured in such a way? Sure, it's a well known ship to us fans, but in-universe it was assigned to a rather boring task and its end was rather ignoble.
Well, that's certainly also possible, but it would also break prior ST precedent. It doesn't really matter if they did that, of course, but I personally like to just pretend to myself it's Sulu's ship.
For the same reason the folk museum near where I live displays examples of ancient farmhouses and schools and shops as well as mansions and castles, I would guess. Because insignificant, humdrum ships running routine missions are as much a part of Starfleet as a flagship like the Enterprise, and cadets at the Academy could end up on any one of those ships, from the greatest to the least significant. They all have their part to play. So examples of many varying types of ship are displayed.
Dave us dropping renders and concept art of ships in episode 1. Complete with names, registries and lengths.
https://twitter.com/daveblass?s=21
Almost all the models are STO models, including the Luna and Inquiry Class
The new shuttle is called the Type 14
https://twitter.com/daveblass?s=21
Almost all the models are STO models, including the Luna and Inquiry Class
The new shuttle is called the Type 14
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That Excelsior II class 
is THICC. I'm viewing on my phone right now so I can't quite tell but that isn't the post Nemesis Sovereign refit right? Also, Inquiry class is huge which doesn't quite look right imo.
is THICC. I'm viewing on my phone right now so I can't quite tell but that isn't the post Nemesis Sovereign refit right? Also, Inquiry class is huge which doesn't quite look right imo.
