Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 2x01 - "The Star Gazer"
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And I said that in my post. But knowing something intellectually and being told all your life again and again and again that such a thing is wrong is going to elicit involuntary emotional reactions, even if your brain can parse it out that nothing illegal/inethical is happening.
From Picard's point of view he hasn't seen Q in almost 30 years. He may have heard stories of Janeway's encounters with him but that may have been the extent of his Q experience between 2370 and 2400.
Captain Freeman's crew has had a couple of encounters with him as well.
I just watched the episode and after really changing my tune rewatching Season 1, I'm giving this show a benefit of the doubt. That was a great season premiere. It reintroduced the characters, answered some lingering questions, like what happened to Jurati, and introduced the new mystery of the season. I loved that they got a variety of ships this time around, and the Anomaly looked really menacing, as did the new Borg Ship. I also loved the trailer for the season and really can't wait to see what happens next. I think my only negative was on the ship things looked really dark. Kinda wish they turned up a lights a little. However, that is a minor quibble, but overall, I was really impressed by that.
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As the Borg ship came through the anomaly I could think of nothing else but the Narada exiting the black hole in Trek 2009. It was that cool and effective.
Let's be real here:
Hundreds of bussiness man marry their secretary every year. Stars marry their personal trainers. Their houskeepers. Their employees. Lecturers their students.
Yes, there's a power dynamic here. But it's also real life. When people work (and live) together stuff happens.
If the power dynamic istn't the reason for the attraction,or overwhelming, and both partners are able to stand on their own regardless, I see no issues. And that's definitely the case here.
Well this is an issue that time as come and gone long before the period we are in. The issue of is your consciousness, the nature of who you are capable of retaining itself in different environments and still be you would likely have been a major concern when transporter technology was approved for living beings. But lets be utterly clear. We have had consciousness in the a ship, in a computer, in transporter buffers, switched into other beings, duplicated in two copies, we have had them in energy forms and out in vacuum, and these issues have never, ever been an issue with considering if someone is the same being. Hell we have had a computer program that is considered sentient in a biological body as well. The biggest issue we have seen is consent. Now we can argue that is an issue that could be rationally debated. But the debate about if someone is still the same should have long been a settled idea. Really about the only thing that is done is a medical exam. And that certainly wasn't ever shown to take much time at all.
Now admittedly Enterprise, would have had been a good place to have that issue explored, as transportation technology was just cleared for living beings. That would be the proper forum (in the shows history, then 250 years later).
I've seen complaints of Picard going blank and outright admitting he didn't know what to do during the Borg attack, and that it's out of character. I don't think it's out of character since Picard is old, he's lost the edge he once had, and just isn't that grizzled military heavy hitter anymore.
What is out of character is, knowing all that, Picard apparently re-entered Starfleet anyway and Starfleet accepted him and put him back into that position. He just shouldn't be out there anymore in a military setting like that. Even the Ambassador thing hinted at in TNG's finale would have been a better choice.
What is out of character is, knowing all that, Picard apparently re-entered Starfleet anyway and Starfleet accepted him and put him back into that position. He just shouldn't be out there anymore in a military setting like that. Even the Ambassador thing hinted at in TNG's finale would have been a better choice.
Sidenote:
I'm betting a 100 bucks that - once Picard get's his second chance by Q, and the whole Borg "invasion" scene plays out with Picard NOT giving the order to self destruct - the "Borg queen" will open her mask, and it will be a beautiful woman beneath it (and not the assimilated version from the trailers/alternate timeline).
I'm betting a 100 bucks that - once Picard get's his second chance by Q, and the whole Borg "invasion" scene plays out with Picard NOT giving the order to self destruct - the "Borg queen" will open her mask, and it will be a beautiful woman beneath it (and not the assimilated version from the trailers/alternate timeline).
Picard had reservations about even going out there again, saying to the Admiral that there are better highly qualified people to deal with it. We even saw on the La Sirena in season 1 Picard was slower. Age does that to people. This is not the same Jean-Luc Picard as his days on the Enterprise, nor should it be.
I'm surprised the Borg thing wasn't called a mile away. Voice of a legion, requesting Picard by name--all happened in Best of Both Worlds.
You're forgetting that the only reason Picard is on the Stargazer is because the unknown transmission (from the BORG) specifically asked for him.
Beforehand, Star Fleet didn't know it was the BORG.
Just like Kirk in TWOK was no longer the fist-throwing explorer he was the first time he encountered Khan. Kirk in that film is at least 43 years younger than Picard is in this episode but the message is the same: we all grow older and often lose touch with what we used to be.
It seems my point isn't clear. I get that Picard changed. What I don't get is why anyone in-universe would, knowing that, put him back out into Starfleet. Admittedly I do realize now the distress call asked only for him.
But Picard back in Starfleet just felt all wrong and backwards to me and still does.
So, what's the reason to write out Jamie McShane's character of Zhaban?
Is it to create this love-interest sub-plot between Picard & Laris?
Is it to create this love-interest sub-plot between Picard & Laris?
Story necessity. Starfleet has a lot of Admirals with, how shall we put it, more daring than they have smarts.
He was there as an advisor and a SME........we do that in the military now with people who aren't even prior service......
I think he's been busy with other things.......he had a fairly large part in CSI: Vegas and several other things in post right now.
