TMP-DE fully restored in 4K…it’s about time!

[Therin of Andor]

I bought the 4k boxed set and the Theatrical Cut is so much bolder and brighter than my earlier version. My point is that I don't know what Wise's wishes were in 2001 but the Bluray is is far brighter than my DE DVD so I wondered if that was any indication.

The US theatrical home video was said to be too dark, but it didn't get wide distribution, as it was sold at a high price point, intended to be rented out, not purchased. Then came the Special Longer Version. Then came the theatrical again, in widescreen.

In Australia, we waited many extra years for the SLV. But our theatrical looked great!

The only Trek DVD that seemed too dark for me (on standard TV settings) was "Nemesis". Very murky, but all I had to do was use the "brighten" button. I would not describe my TMP DE DVD as not bright enough.

 

[Tomalak]

@Pauln6 are you watching the 4K disc? The difference will partly be HDR, which will make some scenes look brighter.

The grade on the twenty year old DVD with crummy MPEG2 encoding will not be reference standard.

 

[Pauln6]

@Pauln6 are you watching the 4K disc? The difference will partly be HDR, which will make some scenes look brighter.

The grade on the twenty year old DVD with crummy MPEG2 encoding will not be reference standard.

I gave my brother the 4k discs as my TV is crummy. I've been watching the blurays but it's still sharp and crisp. Kirk does look a bit purple in some scenes though.

 

[Jeyl]

*Reads news about Douglas Trumbull's passing*

No.... And we were so close to the Director's Edition 4K. Definitely a giant.

 

[Tomalak]

Very sad to hear that. He literally defined how science fiction depicts space on film.

 

[Grant]

Pretty sure when it hits disc that they might dedicate the film to him along with Robert Wise

 

[comsol]

Pretty sure when it hits disc that they might dedicate the film to him along with Robert Wise

They really should, he saved the film when Abel couldn't finish their work.

 

[Therin of Andor]

*Reads news about Douglas Trumbull's passing*
No.... And we were so close to the Director's Edition 4K. Definitely a giant.

The DE Team has mentioned that Douglas Trumbull was consulting with them on this current 4K project.

 

[Jeyl]

The DE Team has mentioned that Douglas Trumbull was consulting with them on this current 4K project.

That's very good news. Still bummed out that he won't be able to see the finished product.

 

[Procutus]

It is indeed a shame. Trumbull's work on the TMP has withstood the tests of time. Trumbull set the standard for all movies about outer space that were to come.

I am most anxious to see this definitive edition of my favorite Trek movie.

 

[fireproof78]

I am not familiar with the name so forgive my ignorance but how did this person define space travel in cinema?

 

[Campe]

I am not familiar with the name so forgive my ignorance but how did this person define space travel in cinema?

He was instrumental on the photography on the model work for both 2001 and TMP. That probably minimizes his contributions but call it a cliffs notes version. I’ll leave the in depth discussion for someone with more time on their hands.

 

[fireproof78]

He was instrumental on the photography on the model work for both 2001 and TMP. That probably minimizes his contributions but call it a cliffs notes version. I’ll leave the in depth discussion for someone with more time on their hands.

I did not know he worked on 2001. I think that contribute is more significant that TMP.

 

[Bad Robot]

I did not know he worked on 2001. I think that contribute is more significant that TMP.

Except that TMP advances some of the technology/techniques Trumbull used in 2001 (as I believe is covered in the TMP director's cut commentaries). He also supervised both Close Encounters and Blade Runner.

 

[fireproof78]

Except that TMP advances some of the technology/techniques Trumbull used in 2001 (as I believe is covered in the TMP director's cut commentaries). He also supervised both Close Encounters and Blade Runner.

I guess that's an improvement...

 

[Bad Robot]

I guess that's an improvement...

If someone doesn't think Blade Runner or Close Encounters (or the abstract sequences of TMP for that matter) looks absolutely spectacular then I wouldn't know what to say.

 

[fireproof78]

If someone doesn't think Blade Runner or Close Encounters (or the abstract sequences of TMP for that matter) looks absolutely spectacular then I wouldn't know what to say.

They do. I don't think they outpace 2001 is all.

 

[Bad Robot]

They do. I don't think they outpace 2001 is all.

Then I think this may be an example of where I find 2001 (and Kubrick) to be a bit overrated.

 

[Campe]

2001 was certainly revolutionary in the way of motion photography. The remaining titles, while having aspects that were revolutionary, were far more evolutionary. It does not change the fact that all of them are beautiful in their own right.

 

[Procutus]

^
Agreed. 2001 was a remarkable achievement for its time, just as CE3K, TMP and Blade Runner continued the evolution of the techniques involved. Call me old-fashioned, but I'd still rather look at and watch really well-crafted model work in a sci-fi film.