Hmm, this isn't ringing a bell for me. Now I have to rewatch that part. Maybe I was just used to it, or assumed "that's the way it's supposed to look "
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TMP-DE fully restored in 4K…it’s about time!
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Isn't the CGI special effects need an upgrade since the last rendition for a standard format, was there news a CGI team hired to do it following Robert Wise's notes?
That's what's been happening. They've got Daren Dochterman and anybody else they need. Only downside (unless you remain faithful to the current streaming stuff) is Paramount Plus gets an exclusive window on it.
Well the "fart" torpedo looks fine to me, considering we cut away immediately as it's fired. And then when they shoot another one aft there's literally no time left.
The First Contact stuff I've never associated with a TMP influence (whereas in Generations it was both obvious and intentional). FC rather looked to me like they were just desperately trying not to appear too TV with it (understandable when you see how paintbrush a lot of the TWOK-established effects looked on the TV side).
It's also hard to even imagine the TMP flares during close range combat. If they considered them at all on TWOK they probably decided they were too visually disorienting.
The Undiscovered Country did a very good job with trying to evolve the look to be less paintbrush. But Berman Trek's visuals (particularly that damn bubble forcefield) were already cemented by that point.
The First Contact stuff I've never associated with a TMP influence (whereas in Generations it was both obvious and intentional). FC rather looked to me like they were just desperately trying not to appear too TV with it (understandable when you see how paintbrush a lot of the TWOK-established effects looked on the TV side).
It's also hard to even imagine the TMP flares during close range combat. If they considered them at all on TWOK they probably decided they were too visually disorienting.
The Undiscovered Country did a very good job with trying to evolve the look to be less paintbrush. But Berman Trek's visuals (particularly that damn bubble forcefield) were already cemented by that point.
There’s a lot of TMP in First Contact. The E herself looks like a midway morph between the Galaxy and the Refit constitution, and has the pearlescent Aztecking in a similar way also.
I think that points more to the TOS movies in general. I see more of TMP in Nemesis than any other TNG film, and even that feels like a stretch.
I think it's more about the fuzzy, gaseous appearance of the torpedo in combination with where it came from that earned it the nickname.
I disagree unless you were watching the fullscreen version. Not only does that torpedo get a whole second of screen time, but the audience is already primed to look at it when we an establishing shot of the aft launcher charging up.
I have never noticed that before, seems my brain simply fileld in the missing straight line beams in random directions for all these years. lol
Same team as the one that worked with Wise on the DVD DE. Led by Producer, David C. Fein.
https://intl.startrek.com/gallery/u...e-restoration-of-star-trek-the-motion-picture
Even if it was a full second, that's not long. The cutaway to tactical is very quick. These are analog effects, they're not likely to be that consistent. I don't see it as something that needs to or even should be fixed, in fact I'd be surprised if they did.
I mean, if they're recompositing effects in general, it seems like the kind of thing that would be addressed (especially if there was a flare filmed, and it just didn't make it in, which is apparently a thing that happened with at least one other shot). I think a bigger issue would be the lumpy, squared-off digitization effect on the nacelles of the last Klingon Battlecruiser, if we're looking at that sequence. Of course, that's also something that's fairly straightforward to fix, I was able to get a rough fix done fairly quickly just working off the final clip, without access to any elements (it helped that the initial wave of the effect was visible, it was just the blue fill that was uneven).
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There’s a difference between having an analogue effect with many layers looking a bit different and having an analogue effect where some of the layers appear to be missing all together. This torpedo has no bright center and no streams of light going off in random directions.
Besides, if this effect is fixed, what would it matter to you since it’s not there long enough to have a noticeable impact? I’d argue that this would be a perfect candidate for a fix since the team themselves state that the best fixes are the ones you don’t notice.
I'm lost. TC?
https://www.acronymfinder.com/TC.html
The 4K DE of TMP will be appropriate to Robert Wise's wishes in 2001.
My PAL Beta version of TMP is actually quite "bold and bright". I understand the original US version was not, as many reviews of the day suggested.
I bought the 4k boxed set and the Theatrical Cut is so much bolder and brighter than my earlier version. My point is that I don't know what Wise's wishes were in 2001 but the Bluray is is far brighter than my DE DVD so I wondered if that was any indication.
