Would like to see Enterprise come back…

[ChristopherPike]

The Romulan War could still be a plot point in an Enterprise era revival that takes into account two decades on for the actors.. characters suffering trauma and loss from having fought in the battles... lingering suspicion there are still enemy infiltrators at work within the Federation. Go the Babylon 5 route with the Minbari War and its slow burning importance and flashback. Then of the few combatants that interacted face-to-face with the enemy, they were mind wiped or programmed as sleeper agents. Preserve the canon versus fudge it slightly, inevitably going from never seen Romulans to their Vulcan ancestry not widely known.

There are also the Remans - who could be seen and mistakenly thought to be Romulans - until Starfleet learn that's a misdirection.

 

[Richard S. Ta]

Marathoning this show now and just over the halfway mark in Season 1... I'd say no. I don't want this show to come back. Most of the characters are very far from being compelling and despite a good premise, the execution of the show so far has been severely lacking.

The characters that inhabit Enterprise are important to a tiny subset of fans. Picard came back because of the popularity of the character and Seven joined that show subsequently for the same reasons. Does any character from Enterprise have that kind of reach? We are talking about a subset of a subset wanting something, then even if it did happen then a portion of that that same subset would hate it.

I think Picard has given a lot of fans the idea that something CBS-Trek does is pick up batons to run with from 20 years ago, whereas the truth is that Picard is an outlier in that regard. It happened as a show because Patrick Stewart is an icon and well respected actor who has mass appeal outside of Star Trek as well as within. It happened because it will sell due to the title 'Picard' and the star, Patrick Stewart. The idea that 'Archer' or Scott Bakula might carry the same weight

Basing a new show on a previous show that failed to capture audiences the first time round would be lunacy.

Maybe I'm just feeling sour towards Enterprise after watching Fusion, but I not only do not wish for it to come back, I also can't think of any sensible reason that it would. Leave it all to books, comics, audio adventures and fanfic. That's where Enterprise has eked out an existence for the last few decades and that's where it should remain.

I think this says it well:

Everyone has moved on from ENT. We will not see it again. And even if we did see it, it would be nothing like what you remember.

It's done. More done than possibly any other show in Trek history and it's never coming back.

 

[ChristopherPike]

I disagree about Scott Bakula not carrying enough weight to headline a Enterprise era spin-off. But given I suspect he's going to be tied up with a Quantum Leap reboot, it's now pointless to argue about it.

 

[FederationHistorian]

The Romulan War could still be a plot point in an Enterprise era revival that takes into account two decades on for the actors.. characters suffering trauma and loss from having fought in the battles... lingering suspicion there are still enemy infiltrators at work within the Federation. Go the Babylon 5 route with the Minbari War and its slow burning importance and flashback. Then of the few combatants that interacted face-to-face with the enemy, they were mind wiped or programmed as sleeper agents. Preserve the canon versus fudge it slightly, inevitably going from never seen Romulans to their Vulcan ancestry not widely known.

There are also the Remans - who could be seen and mistakenly thought to be Romulans - until Starfleet learn that's a misdirection.

It really writes itself, doesn't it?

Does any character from Enterprise have that kind of reach?

Archer is referenced the most in the Kurtzman era, from ST’09 to DIS to LD. Clearly, he’s the most popular one of all. Followed by Shran, Trip, T’Pol, Phlox, Sato (mirror universe character more adored), Reed and Mayweather.

We are talking about a subset of a subset wanting something, then even if it did happen then a portion of that that same subset would hate it.

Haters gonna hate, mate.

think Picard has given a lot of fans the idea that something CBS-Trek does is pick up batons to run with from 20 years ago, whereas the truth is that Picard is an outlier in that regard.

You’re just talking a bunch of crap, since there has been interest in seeing the return of Sisko for what is now decades, and seeing that story told.

Leave it all to books, comics, audio adventures and fanfic. That's where Enterprise has eked out an existence for the last few decades and that's where it should remain.

If it eeks out a better life in books, comic, audio adventures and fanfiction than on tv, what does it day about those that were in charge of its tv production during airing?

And if ENT was cancelled due to “franchise fatigue” and not due to the abilities of the actors and production crew, what does CBS have to lose with a 6-part or 10 part or 15-part miniseries?

If Bakula isn't able to commit to an ENT miniseries now due to the Quantum Leap reboot though, that's 100% on CBS.

 

[Dukhat]

You’re making it sound like CBS lost some grand opportunity to bring Bakula and ENT back, and now they lost their chance with NBC making a Quantum Leap reboot. Really? You really think all the CBS executives are slapping their foreheads in disgust at their stupid decision not to bring back a twenty year old cancelled show that was a ratings loser and the least popular Trek show of the Berman era? Especially when they already have 5 Trek shows already in production that are far more popular than ENT ever was?

I almost feel sorry for people who want ENT back. It’s like the people who want Shatner back as Kirk. They’ve let the delusion cloud their brains until they simply won’t listen to saner heads.

 

[fireproof78]

Does any character from Enterprise have that kind of reach

Not a one, save to a niche part of the Trek fanbase, which is already a smaller niche. Enterprise lacks the pull, no matter the insistence of some. Enterprise didn't capture the same imagination.

 

[Dukhat]

Tucker was really the most interesting character, and he’s dead.

 

[Richard S. Ta]

Archer is referenced the most in the Kurtzman era, from ST’09 to DIS to LD. Clearly, he’s the most popular one of all. Followed by Shran, Trip, T’Pol, Phlox, Sato (mirror universe character more adored), Reed and Mayweather.

So, none of them then? I'm talking about reach beyond hardcore fandom.

You’re just talking a bunch of crap, since there has been interest in seeing the return of Sisko for what is now decades, and seeing that story told.

First of all, there's really no need to be so rude. Secondly, Picard (the show) is an outlier. The other CBS shows take entirely new concepts with even SNW being a 100% ground up recast show based around an almost completely unexplored period of Trek.

Picard is the only one of the CBS shows that is picking up story threads from previous iterations of the franchise that ended decades ago. That's not a bunch of crap. It's a visible fact.

Interest in a Sisko show is like interest in a Sulu show or a Worf show. It's not the same as having a show that's already aired Season 1, has Season 2 airing in a few weeks and has Season 3 practically in the can. It's just fan fantasy. There's a thread about the possibility of a Garak show in the DS9 forum. That's 'interest' but it's still never going to happen.

Fan interest vs. Commercial viability. I think that might be the ‘bunch of crap’ in the conversation here.

what does CBS have to lose with a 6-part or 10 part or 15-part miniseries?

Millions upon millions of dollars.

 

[Hopeful Romantic]

I'm noticing a lot of vigorous stomping on dreams in this thread. Of course the bottom-line, money-based business model does not support a long-cancelled show coming back. But that hard reality isn't a directive not to dream, or tacit encouragement to dismiss anyone who does.

The thread asks if you'd like to see it return. The OP answered right off the bat, "I know it’ll never happen, but I daydream." I think "yes" and "it's not really going to happen in a practical reality" can co-exist. And a lot of answers in between. About this show, other shows, other dreams. We can wish for something even knowing that it will likely stay a wish. Wishes and dreams aren't empty, useless things. They can grow in different directions and give rise to other things. They widen our horizons.

Without dreaming, where would we be?

p.s. If TPTB find a way to fit Bakula into the Quantum Leap reboot -- actually, it looks like a sequel, an idea I like -- I would be thrilled. How many silly, impractical, dead-end wishes and dreams led to the resurrection of Quantum Leap? Anything is possible.

 

[Dukhat]

So if someone makes a post saying "I wish Shatner would return as Kirk," I can't reply that "that's never going to happen" because that might hurt the OP's feelings?

 

[Sci]

I don't have a problem with anyone saying they just wish ENT could come back. But that's very different from arguing that ENT was somehow a secretly successful show that was cancelled because of evil executives acting in contravention to their fiduciary duty to shareholders, or that ENT is actually secretly super-popular.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

The concept of evil executives acting as soulless bean-counters may be a cliché....but that doesn't mean it's not true.

 

[fireproof78]

I don't have a problem with anyone saying they just wish ENT could come back. But that's very different from arguing that ENT was somehow a secretly successful show that was cancelled because of evil executives acting in contravention to their fiduciary duty to shareholders, or that ENT is actually secretly super-popular.

Indeed. There is clearly a small but passionate fanbase to Enterprise but people treating as this uber-popular show if only "the man" would just let it up seem to have missed out on the show's slow decline.

 

[Sci]

The concept of evil executives acting as soulless bean-counters may be a cliché....but that doesn't mean it's not true.

I mean, sure, but it was them accurately bean-counting that got ENT cancelled, not a bunch of them secretly acting in contravention to their fiduciary duty to shareholders.

 

[BillJ]

I like Enterprise, but its over. Time to move on.

 

[shapeshifter]

I'd be ok with them somehow working Archer into a SNW story, perhaps a flashback. With Bakula already being a part of the CBS family it should be and easy deal to do.

 

[Ray Hardgrit]

I'd say they should make a Dawn of the Federation series and give them recurring roles, but I only want it if Starfleet's using the USS Franklin uniforms from Beyond.

 

[Dukhat]

ENT was cancelled because it was a very expensive show to produce but did not get enough ratings returns to justify the costs involved. It wasn't because anyone 'hated' Star Trek or sci-fi in general, as was the prevailing (and false) belief about Les Moonves at the time.

I personally never felt that Bakula's Archer character was all that interesting, and I thought Bakula's acting was pretty subpar. And that's coming from someone who thought Bakula was great in Quantum Leap. I would be very surprised if CBS bothered to produce something specifically for him Trek-wise. I also thought the NX-01 crew were mostly contrived. You got the All-American captain, the Good Ole' Boy engineer, the token Brit, the token Asian, the token black guy, the token bitchy Vulcan-with-pole-up-ass, and the token weird alien dude who happens to be the ship's doctor. I'm not really seeing a reunion of this crew any time soon.

 

[Richard S. Ta]

I don't have a problem with anyone saying they just wish ENT could come back. But that's very different from arguing that ENT was somehow a secretly successful show that was cancelled because of evil executives acting in contravention to their fiduciary duty to shareholders, or that ENT is actually secretly super-popular.

Exactly this. The OP was rather sweet in admitting that it’s nice to have a dream. It is nice to have a dream.

It’s the idea put about (not by the OP) that bringing Enterprise back would be financially viable and wonderful if only those damned suits in Hollywood would realise their mistake from all those years ago that’s silly.

 

[ChristopherPike]

I'll just leave this here:
https://comicbook.com/startrek/news/star-trek-anthology-tales-of-the-federation-akiva-goldsman/

From Akvia Goldsman in the latest editon of SFX magazine:

"There's something that I like, which I think Robert Kirkman is doing right now with The Walking Dead, which is a kind of... I'll call it Tales Of The Federation, where you would just do one-offs, right?" he explains. "So you could bring George Takei back for an hour, and do a show about Sulu as an older man, or find Jonathan Archer having now retired from his Enterprise and being on Earth, just do these certain really interesting ones."

If Bakula's the man I suspect he is, Star Trek Universe producers would go to him with a pitch and he'd probably go, "Yes, if there's something for a few of my former cast mates in it". At which point, that would either expand the idea or make it much too big for a Short Trek.