We saw such folks in TNG, (Guinan, Ben, Mr. Mott). Were there any such non-Starfleet personnel ever shown on TOS. I can see folks taking turns serving duty in the lounge but were any crewmembers cross-trained as barbers? Who did Uhura's and Rand's (rather elaborate) hair? Were there other positions held by civilians?
Non Starfleet personnel on the Enterprise.
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I'd imagine few if any. The Enterprise D was basically meant to be a small city in space.
Maybe just the guy who returned the balls in the Enterprise bowling alley...
You might not be far off the mark that it was a "retail" store as opposed to the ship's supply holds. I figure it references how US Navy ships have a small PX aboard the ship for sundries and other items, which is called Ship's Store. And that the Enterprise had something similar, since it was a show leaning heavily into the Naval analogy.
Here are some on a modern aircraft carrier:
And here's the one on the WW II aircraft carrier USS Hornet, which is now a moored museum ship in Alameda.
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Yeh I think Spock's bangs would need a monthly trim unless he did it himself or they had some sort of futuristic hair machine.
I'm thinking on an aircraft carrier you eventually get leave - so can get a haircut but they must have crewmen on board who give haircuts. I mean the military is pretty strict on hair length.
I doubt TOS Enterprise had any civilians on board
It sounds like Franz Joseph should have skipped the bowling alley (which was just a joke by Riley), and used that space for a convenience store and a hair salon.
Those monitor images require explanation.Maybe just the guy who returned the balls in the Enterprise bowling alley...
One is Generations. One is Battlestar Galactica. I don’t recognize the other two.
2nd from the left could be Ninja Turtles, or Stargate Something-Something.
No barber. Everyone wore wigs. Mystery solved.
Actually, the word "stores" is what the Navy calls that stuff down in the holds and they have built various ships over the years to carry that kind of stuff.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Bridge_(AF-1)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Pollux_(AKS-4)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acubens-class_general_stores_issue_ship
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Pictor_(AF-54)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Mars_(AFS-1)
Oh for sure. I'm also aware of that. I'm a Navy Brat, growing up around San Diego's naval base.
Was speculating a possible alternative based on Rand saying specifically "ship's stores". More so because Rand was talking about obtaining a perfume, a sundry better suited to the Ship's Store instead of the store holds.
And we saw something like a Ship's Store with replicators in TNG's "Data's Day" when Worf is deciding on a gift for the Keiko-O'Brien wedding.
"There is honor in giving wedding gifts! Today is a good day to 'buy'!"
From the "Data's Day" script description:
As always, I could be wrong or right... or right wrong. Wrong wrong. Right right. Or just plain off my rocker. That happens a lot too.
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Coronado? Or the one on Harbor Drive? Tied up a lot at that last one. Did boot in San Diego too, back when there was a NTC there. Lots of memories about San Diego. My young stupid self has even been on the beach north of the line near Torrey Pines, if you know what i mean.
Coronado? Or the one on Harbor Drive? Tied up a lot at that last one. Did boot in San Diego too, back when there was a NTC there. Lots of memories about San Diego. My young stupid self has even been on the beach north of the line near Torrey Pines, if you know what i mean.
I too have been to Black's Beach! LOL! My dad's ships were mostly stationed at 32nd (Harbor Drive). Although I've been to Coronado and the others around town.
Coronado. I lived for two years in San Diego as a kid and we used to go over there to the beach. You had to take the car ferry in those days, right before we moved back east they were starting to build the road out to there.
Even went to the swanky hotel that was there (late 1960s) for Thanksgiving one year. Nixon was at that hotel for some reason. No, I didn't see him.
Even went to the swanky hotel that was there (late 1960s) for Thanksgiving one year. Nixon was at that hotel for some reason. No, I didn't see him.
It's an entry from a caption contest ran many years ago, a photoshop jam piece from many of the contest regulars. Pretty sure McCoy at the counter and Spock with the ball were my contributions. The image next to Col. Tighe is Kirk from the Gold Key Star Trek comic. Some story about space pirates I think. It was also the avatar of poster Shatmandu who used to run the contest.
I always wondered what the wives and husband did all day on TNG. Yes ther were holodecks but crew would have priority..
And its not like there's housework to do. An on an even smaller ship like the TOS Enterprise....
And its not like there's housework to do. An on an even smaller ship like the TOS Enterprise....
I imagine they'd do jobs, like Keiko and the civilian school teachers and lounge staff.
Early on in TOS in “Balance Of Terror” we saw that two of the crew were going to be married. This infers that relationships, particularly formalized ones, were accepted within the service and even aboard ships on extended patrol. In “The Cage” and throughout the series we saw personnel in civilian attire when off-duty.
We’ve seen the Enterprise transporting scientists. It’s quite possible and perhaps likely scientists might be brought aboard for specific assignments much like we saw later in TNG. Actually we saw a firsthand example in “The Ultimate Computer” as Richard Daystrom was evidently not Starfleet personnel. He was a civilian scientist overseeing the operational test run of the M5.
We’ve seen the Enterprise transporting scientists. It’s quite possible and perhaps likely scientists might be brought aboard for specific assignments much like we saw later in TNG. Actually we saw a firsthand example in “The Ultimate Computer” as Richard Daystrom was evidently not Starfleet personnel. He was a civilian scientist overseeing the operational test run of the M5.
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