I've already (mostly) completed a remaster of my TUC corridor set AND done my take on the Excelsior corridors as well. I'll release some images in due time!
Donny’s Late TOS Movie Era Interiors
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I'd suggest covering up some of them, but not all of them. I could see them being at important junctures or outside the big double doors; even TOS had random comm panels scattered around the corridor set, as well as this display next to the Jefferies tube.
It would appear that by TUC, the corridors have a combination of all that came before and after it... The TNG vertical wall and wood rail, the paneled covers now vertically placed instead of angled with the frames and the frames themselves plus piping in the ceiling.
The wooden rails with the odd profile were removed for TUC and replaced by simpler, rectangular red railing.
I chose to keep the wooden railing for the TFF depiction since it echoes the wood railing of the bridge and the wood we see in the observation lounge of that film.
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I'm in a very TFF mood right now, so I decided to start on an exclusive set to TFF: The Enterprise-A Observation Lounge.
I happened upon some schematics of the room (unfortunately I'm unable to share) which have been a great help, but there were a lot of question marks the schematics didn't answer, or the set was built differently than depicted (for instance, the doorway on the schematic was shaped rectangular whereas it was built trapezoidal). There are also a few things the schematics don't really cover in detail at all, like the exact shape/dimensions of the wooden portion of the floor. I originally thought the entire floor was wooden, but careful examination of screen frames show that carpet surrounds it on all sides. I'm going to further refine the shape of the wooden floor section a bit later, but I'll be conjecturing it quite a bit.
Something of note: the room itself is a whopping 14 feet high, including the light soffit at the top, The doorway is also larger than other doorways on the ship, necessitating a taller hallway. The saucer being roughly 20 feet thick at is outermost perimeter, this means that the room can't fit on one deck and has to be positioned lower than the rest of Deck 6. The windows actually meet up at about the midpoint of the height of the saucer edge. I surmise that the corridor near this room on Deck 6 has a ramp that drops about 4 feet to give room for the taller room and hallway. Really clunky stuff
Anyway, these screenshots are very very WIP, as there are a lot of details to add and little things to clean up, but the basic structure of the room is now intact.
The schematics and the screen frames show that there are light panels above the windows, but we never see them lit in the film. I've chosen to illuminate them here so you can see the window wall with more clarity:
More to come soon! If anyone has any references not widely available or behind the scenes photos of this set, please send them my way!
I happened upon some schematics of the room (unfortunately I'm unable to share) which have been a great help, but there were a lot of question marks the schematics didn't answer, or the set was built differently than depicted (for instance, the doorway on the schematic was shaped rectangular whereas it was built trapezoidal). There are also a few things the schematics don't really cover in detail at all, like the exact shape/dimensions of the wooden portion of the floor. I originally thought the entire floor was wooden, but careful examination of screen frames show that carpet surrounds it on all sides. I'm going to further refine the shape of the wooden floor section a bit later, but I'll be conjecturing it quite a bit.
Something of note: the room itself is a whopping 14 feet high, including the light soffit at the top, The doorway is also larger than other doorways on the ship, necessitating a taller hallway. The saucer being roughly 20 feet thick at is outermost perimeter, this means that the room can't fit on one deck and has to be positioned lower than the rest of Deck 6. The windows actually meet up at about the midpoint of the height of the saucer edge. I surmise that the corridor near this room on Deck 6 has a ramp that drops about 4 feet to give room for the taller room and hallway. Really clunky stuff
Anyway, these screenshots are very very WIP, as there are a lot of details to add and little things to clean up, but the basic structure of the room is now intact.
The schematics and the screen frames show that there are light panels above the windows, but we never see them lit in the film. I've chosen to illuminate them here so you can see the window wall with more clarity:
More to come soon! If anyone has any references not widely available or behind the scenes photos of this set, please send them my way!
You're doing the Lord's work with this room, Donny. Amazing that they went to all the trouble to create this room, and then never properly showcased it. It's either shrouded in darkness (Spock's first explanation of his past with Sybok, and the later scene where they use the emergency communicator), mixed with other surroundings (McCoy and Spock's "pain"), taking a back seat to Bran Ferren's cloud tank, or so full of people that you can't get a good sense of the place.
I love the late TOS-Movie aesthetics.
I was always curious where this room was supposed to be in the ship. The only rectangular windows along the PH perimeter were for the rec dec, but that was a huge 2-level set compared to this (unless they chopped it up into multiple rec rooms so it wouldn't be as cavernous as the refit).
I also considered that it might be somewhere in the lower half of the secondary hull, based on the wall configuration, but all those windows are oval or perfectly round so I dunno.
Beautiful work as always, Donny! Curious where you plan to put this in relation to your other TFF E-A set pieces.
I also considered that it might be somewhere in the lower half of the secondary hull, based on the wall configuration, but all those windows are oval or perfectly round so I dunno.
Beautiful work as always, Donny! Curious where you plan to put this in relation to your other TFF E-A set pieces.
I've always loved that set even though fitting it into ship model is... well, challenging. Good work, Donny!
Yes, the window wall was actually curved in a segmented fashion and angled outward to match that of the saucer rim's edge. Great care seems to have been taken to match the curvature of the saucer rim, even though there are no windows of this type in this location of the Enterprise filming model. Here is an image of my set (built to the schematics) with my 1000' Connie Refit model's saucer over it. You'll see it's a match.
But, as stated before the set is taller than the 10 foot deck height, so it has to be positioned below the centerline of the saucer's edge.
It's supposed to be at the very front tip of the saucer given the movement of the stars and the way the set was built, but there are no windows on the exterior model to match. I believe I read at one point that they were going to add the windows to the model but ultimately did not.
No need to match windows, just install a couple of those handy outer shutters we saw in Mark Of Gideon!
Just wondering; how much further up does the undercut go on your model? I'm thinking that perhaps the undercut represents the natural bottom of that entire deck of the ship, so that perhaps the Obs Lounge isn't as offset as you think?
@Donny - very cool and thanks for the visual. I could see it wasn't completely straight when looking at the carpeting and the wood floor/window wall but wanted to confirm if it wasn't just me imagining it 
That undercut looks like it is going to invade the corridor floor but I am happy to see it fit in the hull 
Looking forward to the ship's steering wheel!
That undercut looks like it is going to invade the corridor floor but I am happy to see it fit in the hull Looking forward to the ship's steering wheel!
Herman Zimmerman was really clever gearing fans of that era this Enterprise was an extended hand to TNG. A Wonderful design which you're doing a fine job on it, Donny.I'm in a very TFF mood right now, so I decided to start on an exclusive set to TFF: The Enterprise-A Observation Lounge.
I happened upon some schematics of the room (unfortunately I'm unable to share) which have been a great help, but there were a lot of question marks the schematics didn't answer, or the set was built differently than depicted (for instance, the doorway on the schematic was shaped rectangular whereas it was built trapezoidal). There are also a few things the schematics don't really cover in detail at all, like the exact shape/dimensions of the wooden portion of the floor. I originally thought the entire floor was wooden, but careful examination of screen frames show that carpet surrounds it on all sides. I'm going to further refine the shape of the wooden floor section a bit later, but I'll be conjecturing it quite a bit.
Something of note: the room itself is a whopping 14 feet high, including the light soffit at the top, The doorway is also larger than other doorways on the ship, necessitating a taller hallway. The saucer being roughly 20 feet thick at is outermost perimeter, this means that the room can't fit on one deck and has to be positioned lower than the rest of Deck 6. The windows actually meet up at about the midpoint of the height of the saucer edge. I surmise that the corridor near this room on Deck 6 has a ramp that drops about 4 feet to give room for the taller room and hallway. Really clunky stuff
Anyway, these screenshots are very very WIP, as there are a lot of details to add and little things to clean up, but the basic structure of the room is now intact.
The schematics and the screen frames show that there are light panels above the windows, but we never see them lit in the film. I've chosen to illuminate them here so you can see the window wall with more clarity:
More to come soon! If anyone has any references not widely available or behind the scenes photos of this set, please send them my way!
Where does the table thing pop up? Middle of the room?Yes, the window wall was actually curved in a segmented fashion and angled outward to match that of the saucer rim's edge. Great care seems to have been taken to match the curvature of the saucer rim, even though there are no windows of this type in this location of the Enterprise filming model. Here is an image of my set (built to the schematics) with my 1000' Connie Refit model's saucer over it. You'll see it's a match.
But, as stated before the set is taller than the 10 foot deck height, so it has to be positioned below the centerline of the saucer's edge.
It's supposed to be at the very front tip of the saucer given the movement of the stars and the way the set was built, but there are no windows on the exterior model to match. I believe I read at one point that they were going to add the windows to the model but ultimately did not.
Yep, just haven’t gotten to modeling all the details yet.
