Spoilers ST Lower Decks - Starships and Technology Season Two Discussion

[Cyfa]

I've just watched LDS: "I, Excretus" (v.funny, btw ) and one of the shots of the Cerritos made me think of the lone saucer hull seen in the Qualor II surplus depot. I think the Qualor saucer and the Cerritos' saucer have some similarities - the most striking being those splayed protrusions that on the Cerritos end in shuttlebays. If one accepts that registry numbers generally increase over time, perhaps the Qualor saucer could be retconned/head-canoned as a pre-refit California-class saucer? Maybe it's a saucer from one of the original 12000 registry Californias (perhaps this is what the Solvang NCC-12101 or the Rubidoux NCC-12109 looked like before refits)? The sloping hull between the protrusions could have had the terraces added as part of a refit?
Anyway, that's my little observation - I'm interested in hearing what anyone else thinks

 

[Dukhat]

I've just watched LDS: "I, Excretus" (v.funny, btw ) and one of the shots of the Cerritos made me think of the lone saucer hull seen in the Qualor II surplus depot. I think the Qualor saucer and the Cerritos' saucer have some similarities - the most striking being those splayed protrusions that on the Cerritos end in shuttlebays. If one accepts that registry numbers generally increase over time, perhaps the Qualor saucer could be retconned/head-canoned as a pre-refit California-class saucer? Maybe it's a saucer from one of the original 12000 registry Californias (perhaps this is what the Solvang NCC-12101 or the Rubidoux NCC-12109 looked like before refits)? The sloping hull between the protrusions could have had the terraces added as part of a refit?
Anyway, that's my little observation - I'm interested in hearing what anyone else thinks

I have to admit, that saucer and the California Class saucer bears a striking resemblance. But I think it's just a coincidence. I once emailed Michael Okuda about this mystery saucer, and he told me that he thought it was left over from the miniseries "V" (possibly a Mothership study model or prototype.)

 

[NCC-73515]

A potential 2nd refit of the Excelsior class

 

[Timo]

The sloping hull between the protrusions could have had the terraces added as part of a refit?

...This also explains the weird indented part aft of the bridge, as obviously there's some sort of an absolutely vital sensor or connector or whatnot there at this part of the original top surface, which thus obviously must be left exposed even when the rest of the saucer gains a deck or two in height!

Yup, thats our pre-refit California right there. Now we only need to spot something that would pass for the "original" nacelles!

Timo Saloniemi

 

[Cyfa]

I have to admit, that saucer and the California Class saucer bears a striking resemblance. But I think it's just a coincidence. I once emailed Michael Okuda about this mystery saucer, and he told me that he thought it was left over from the miniseries "V" (possibly a Mothership study model or prototype.)

- Oh, yes I agree that it's almost certainly a coincidence, but I do like a good coincidence!
That's a nice little bit of info about what that saucer likely was. Thanks.

...This also explains the weird indented part aft of the bridge, as obviously there's some sort of an absolutely vital sensor or connector or whatnot there at this part of the original top surface, which thus obviously must be left exposed even when the rest of the saucer gains a deck or two in height!

Yup, thats our pre-refit California right there. Now we only need to spot something that would pass for the "original" nacelles!

- Hmmm... Long and slender nacelles? Maybe a pair from - or similar to - the Excelsior-class? Although, take off that cladding (that the turbolift passes through), and what's underneath could be something much older?

 

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The TrekYards Duo examine the Royal Ship.

 

[Markonian]

I like how it looks like a Federation, non-Starfleet ship.

 

[Kamen Rider Blade]

I like how it looks like a Federation, non-Starfleet ship.

Why do I feel like it deserves it's own episode on "Life Styles of the Rich & Famous".

 

[matthunter]

Rich and Fatuous is more like it.

 

[Markonian]

Now, that makes me think the Monaveen might make for a great T6 engineering ship for the 2022 Lohlunat Festival/Risa Summer Event in STO. We previously had Risian luxury cruisers - posh and sleek.

 

[Kamen Rider Blade]

Am I the only one that thinks the Hysperians and the Klingons would get along fabulously given their love of martial melee weapons?

 

[Markonian]

Am I the only one that thinks the Hysperians and the Klingons would get along fabulously given their love of martial melee weapons?

Perhaps. But the Klingons may also dislike that the Hysperians are essentially just LARPers, where the melee is part of the cultural pastiche rather than an expression of a warrior's mind.

 

[publiusr]

The Hirogen would be more welcome

 

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The TrekYard Duo talks about Agimus =D

 

[Tuskin38]

So the Enterprise refit MSD in the latest episode, is actually the Phase 2 design. Look at the outline of the nacelles and pylons, that's where it's the most obvious.

https://twitter.com/gaghyogi49/status/1444403089356824581/photo/2
https://twitter.com/JoeRalat/status/1444413836438740998

 

[Timo]

Yup. And what looked like a blatant vertical warp core, with bright dots at top and bottom ends, actually isn't. More probably, the cluster of bluish dots near the stems of the pylons might be it, perhaps approximating the TOS positioning of Scotty's workplace (but in a hull that's probably almost completely dedicated to "Main Engineering" anyway, just like in that Drexler cutaway that places Scotty's control center and the adjoining triangle of GNDN pipes at that location).

A bit odd for such a ship to feature the Vulcan Microwave/Barbeque Room that was apparently installed in NCC-1701-refit as ann afterthought, between TMP and TWoK...

Timo Saloniemi

 

[F. King Daniel]

So the Enterprise refit MSD in the latest episode, is actually the Phase 2 design. Look at the outline of the nacelles and pylons, that's where it's the most obvious.

https://twitter.com/gaghyogi49/status/1444403089356824581/photo/2
https://twitter.com/JoeRalat/status/1444413836438740998

Definitely not based on this P2 (fan?) cutaway but they're the only ones I've ever seen with a core shaped that way.

Also the Phase II Enterprise was used on display screens in Wrath of Khan, most noticably on the shield display.

 

[Tuskin38]

That’s still not the warp core in the lower decks cutaway, it’s a turbo lift path
It matches the style in the Cerritos’s cutaway

 

[publiusr]

So the Enterprise refit MSD in the latest episode, is actually the Phase 2 design. Look at the outline of the nacelles and pylons, that's where it's the most obvious.

https://twitter.com/gaghyogi49/status/1444403089356824581/photo/2
https://twitter.com/JoeRalat/status/1444413836438740998

I really like that graphic

 

[Mark_Nguyen]

Quick bytes from 2x08. Like the opening holodeck scene in 2x01 it gets a biiiig pass, compounded because of Shari's interference. But offhand:

- The satellite our LD heroes are repairing is the cryosat from TNG "The Neutral Zone", from stem to solar arrays. Given that Starfleet doesn't really USE solar technology, what could this be then? It's not like the subspace relay stations in "Aquiel", those are manned!

- Despite the interference, the holopod safeties seem to be working, otherwise at least Mariner would have been trampled to death by horse. However, Rutherford burns his hands on the not-Phase II Enterprise in his sim, so how would that work? Would they simply have been hot to the touch, but not to the point of ACTUALLY burning him, while adding holo smoke or burned, sizzling flesh?

- And about the clothes in the holopods. Mariner's mirror outfit includes heels but not her regular uniform, so how would the environment compensate for the difference in foot posture? And does this mean that Rutherford doesn't normally wear socks, or that his sim character doesn't?

- We see the runabout from last time again. It seems to be the same set design, but the windows that Mariner and Boimler were sat under last time are replaced with larger panels or square windows. The LCARS are NOT copied from the ones seen in detail in the old DS9TM. Also, the transporter has four pads. Outside though it's the same 2D drawing reused.

- The senior staff gift the LD crew with a new replicator. So beyond the added menu items, does this mean that it's somehow more advanced than the one donwstairs? As if it would only be able to produce certain menu items because of lower resolution or something? The ritz crackers in the senior officers quarters have all the little divots, but on deck 11 they come out as perfectly circular? And what difference does it make ANYWAY, as we've seen senior officers eat in the mess hall?

Mark