What are your controversial Star Trek opinions?

This is an opinion thread. That's what opinions about Trek are: completely relative. If we're going to microanalyze every post made we might as well rename this the "Pick Apart Trek Opinions Thread" and be done with it.

 

Would this be an appropriate time for a colorful metaphor?

 

Even though I agree with KennyBoo, your chosen GIF makes me want to side with you..... The Office has had a bad influence on me.

 

The 32nd century starships in Discovery look less advanced than the 26th century Enterprise-, with pretty much the only exception of the Angelou class (the "flying rainforest").

 

I never felt Space Seed was really that good of an episode either. It seems to have only retroactively been considered one of the greats because of The Wrath of Khan. I'd be curious to know if it was ranked among one of the best episodes of the show before that movie came out.

 

The Enterprise-J is a cool-looking starship.

 

That's what I meant of course! Not sure what happened to the J in my post and I'm not able to edit :/

 

I get that she's enormous(two or three kilometers long at bare minimum) and very organic and even aquatic in shape but then so are a few of the 32nd century Federation starships seen in DSC. The Nog has a very deep sea feel to its curves as if it sprang from the depths of some alien ocean.

 

But yeah, you'd think by the 3100s that Federation ships would either be just as big or just as exotic in overall appearance and look just as if not more advanced. The detached warp nacelles are one of the only design aspects that look more advanced than the 1701-J.

 

Hell, according to fandom I'm one of the paria's for saying that TWOK is a weak Star Trek Movie. Awesome Generic Action Movie though.

 

1950s cars look way more exotic (and elaborate) than 1980s cars.

 

This is true. Cars became more cookie cutter and predictable as the decades passed.

Hard to believe an AMC Pacer had more advanced tech than a '64 Mustang but wasn't worthy of being in the same hemisphere as the Mustang.

 

I think the Angelou class looks like the most advanced out of the 32nd century class ships precisely because it looks the least like a starship. Presumably it can go to warp but it has no obvious nacelles. Dare I say it's almost Culture-esque... a spaceship so advanced that the interior can be a subtropical paradise with lakes, rivers, trees, and hills, without corridors and bulkheads. "Technology unchained" indeed.

The only other 32nd century class ship I like is the one that looks like the classic Starfleet saucer-nacelles paradigm reduced to an abstraction. The one that looks a bit like the energy sword from Halo. I don't believe it's been named even in production documentation yet; Memory Alpha and Ex Astris Scientia just call it the "long-nacelled ship".

EDIT: apparently it's called the Friendship class.

 

I recommend not watching TV as a general case.

 

I’ve wanted to say that “Miri” is a solid episode (after the teaser, that is. The pointless and undeveloped duplicate Earth business is just silly.), but few other eps evoke fandom’s vitriolic opprobrium quite like that one.

I have my reasons, mainly to do with the interactions among the landing party and some genuine tension as they try to beat the clock—it’s an altogether solid ensemble piece. The affectionate sparring between Spock and McCoy, too, is worth a look, especially with the climax. Also, any episode directed by Vincent McEveety is worth watching.

But my reasons are subjective and I don’t intend to change anyone’s mind. So, thanks to your bravery, Alice_27, I have taken the plunge and wrote it down.

I like “Miri.”

 

Had a 76 Pacer. Far from cookie cutter. Gotta give AMC props for trying something differe nt. Kind of the auto version of the color imacs Jobs and Johnny Ive made in the late 90s.

 

I am with you on that one. Edith could have been a Bund sympathizer even as confederates may have played a role in New York’s draft riots. But Kirk fell so fast! There is a part of me that thinks she is Gary Seven’s evil counterpart…a Missy type who did for the real Edith…a Carrie Nation frump…and used pheromones herself:

“Why, I’m even going to run out in the street and be saved by the dashing…wha—-**