What are your controversial Star Trek opinions?

Discussion in 'General Trek Discussion' started by Amasov, Jun 20, 2020.

  1. Alice_27

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    ...I feel his relationship with Miramane was much stronger. He was heartbroken at not being able to prevent her (Edith's) death but he was just as upset when Miramanee died (he couldn't prevent that one either).

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  2. Vger23

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    COTEOF was an amazing episode for its time. I think the fact that time travel and paradox episodes and stories in Star Trek and scifi in general have become pretty much cliché at this point, it has diminished the impact of this episode and how special it was at the time.
     
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  3. Oddish

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    Two I've touched on elsewhere...

    1. "Before and After" was not as disturbing as many say. Both Kes and Linnis reached adult emotional and sexual maturity at a young age. Tom and Harry were good men who would not have exploited emotionally immature or vulnerable individuals. They both found an opportunity for romance (at a cost: their time with their partners would be brief), and they took it.

    2. There was nothing particularly wrong with Janeway's actions in "Fair Haven". She has needs just like anyone else, but her status as captain precluded romance with the crew (TNG's "Lessons" shows the wisdom in this). So why not have a little fun in Fair Haven?

    I rather liked the beginning of "Homecoming" by Christine Golden. It shows the Paris family reunion, Tuvok getting his mind meld with his son, Janeway making admiral. But it also has Janeway saying her goodbyes to Michael, suggesting that they had continued to spend time together in the ensuing year.
     
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  4. Alice_27

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    I watched this episode for the first time in the mid to late 70' (so not decades after its 1st airing); just never really liked it. To each their own :)
     
  5. eschaton

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    My primary issue with the episode is the acting of Joan Collins. Not that it's bad, but it's just...old timey...in a way that was already dropping out of style in the mid 1960s. It seemed more like something you'd see in a movie from the Golden Age of cinema. And her speech regarding the future was a little too on-the-nose/fourth wall breaking.
     
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  6. Lord Garth

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    I'm okay with it, mainly because they time-travelled to 1930. So, artistic-license, Joan Collins could've acted in 1930s style as a deliberate choice and the director, Joe Pevney, approved of it.

    I actually prefer it because, in a strange way, it makes it feel more like they went back to 1930 instead of a 1967 version of 1930.
     
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  7. Christmas Corps

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    You said pretty much spot-on what I was going to say.
     
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  8. Orphalesion

    Orphalesion Commodore Commodore

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    As I have repeatedly said in this thread and others, I'm with you on this topic.
    I never understood what people see in it either. And I hate the Keeler Elf's stupid speech about space ships.

    Plus with all the hype, and with the very poetic name, I expected something a lot more spectacular and exotic than "we're going to the backlot in historical costumes *yet again*"
     
  9. Vale

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    I'm not sure these counts as a genuinely controversial opinions, but:

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  10. Christmas Corps

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    Are you kidding? :lol:
     
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  11. Vale

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    Oh crap. These is what happen when I'm trying to proof-read while watching TV.
     
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  12. Alice_27

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    Thank you! This post is about controversial opinions yet so many are trying to argue that my opinion is wrong. I posted this because I knew it would be controversial to most Trek fans (which is what this thread is about right?). I'm sure that some of my favorites are not as well received and that's fine. Everyone is entitled to like what they like. Yet I feel that by mentioning this almost sacred episode everyone who loves it feels the need to try to point out why my OPINION is wrong or at least try to persuade me to reconsider such a blasphemous statement.

    If you love this episode, that's great, I'm happy you have found your favorite. Just realize that not everyone is going to share your opinion.
     
  13. KennyB

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    People just can't seem to accept that other people might feel differently.......Hell my LEAST favorite movie is iV and the stupid whales.....but commercially it is regarded as the most successful of the original film. Did not like the whales or the slapstick but that is just me.
     
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  14. SantaEddie74

    SantaEddie74 Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    This is an opinion thread. That's what opinions about Trek are: completely relative. If we're going to microanalyze every post made we might as well rename this the "Pick Apart Trek Opinions Thread" and be done with it.
     
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  15. 1001001

    1001001 Pull Up a Groove and Get Fabulous! Moderator

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    I can accept that other people might feel incorrectly, does that count?

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  16. SantaEddie74

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    Would this be an appropriate time for a colorful metaphor? :vulcan:
     
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  17. Mage

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    Even though I agree with KennyBoo, your chosen GIF makes me want to side with you..... The Office has had a bad influence on me.
     
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  18. Vale

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    The 32nd century starships in Discovery look less advanced than the 26th century Enterprise-, with pretty much the only exception of the Angelou class (the "flying rainforest").
     
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  19. Amasov

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    I never felt Space Seed was really that good of an episode either. It seems to have only retroactively been considered one of the greats because of The Wrath of Khan. I'd be curious to know if it was ranked among one of the best episodes of the show before that movie came out.
     
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  20. SantaEddie74

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    The Enterprise-J is a cool-looking starship.