When was the last time you saw Star Trek The Motion Picture?

Discussion in 'Star Trek Movies I-X' started by urrutiap, Jul 5, 2021.

  1. F. King Daniel

    F. King Daniel Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Yes but it was better when Spock said it.
     
  2. Tim Thomason

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    *Xenophanes, from what I can find out. Protagoras was about 100 years after him, but I can't seem to find any similar quote or attribution.
     
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    It was actually Decker’s line, and I agree that it was critical to the themes of the film, and I’m not sure why they they would have cut it and / or not included it in the DE.
     
  4. Lord Garth

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    The last time? Spring. I don't remember the month.

    I haven't seen the 4K version of the DE. Is it on Paramount+ yet?
     
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    When the movie came back to Theaters to celebrate 40 years of the film. I guess that was 2019. Man the Pandemic has almost felt like we can just forget 2020 ever happened.
     
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  6. oldtrekkie

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    Yes, you're right and the exact quote is: "If cattle and horses, or lions, had hands, or were able to draw with their feet and produce the works which men do, horses would draw the forms of gods like horses, and cattle like cattle, and they would make the gods' bodies the same shape as their own."
     
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  7. Tim Thomason

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    Actually, the exact quote (from Clement of Alexandria in his Stromata, attributed to lost fragments of Xenophon) is:
    I went through a lot of work to make this sarcastic reply.
     
  8. oldtrekkie

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    It must be really bad if google's translator can't make heads or tails of it.

    Even bad syntax and spelling get some results.

    Perhaps your "Greek" is not as good as you thought...
     
  9. Tim Thomason

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    It's the direct quote from the Stromata (viewable here) in the original Greek (or close enough). It took me a while to figure out the chapter and verse where Xenophon is quoted by Clement and then narrow it down to the exact quote, and this wasn't made easy by Google Translate not working with the old Greek texts so I had to use other services (Bing Translate seems to work best).

    It doesn't look at all like the accepted quote, but that's the problem with translation being an art and not a science (it translating hands into handful and other oddities).
     
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  10. jackoverfull

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    does google translate have ANCIENT Greek support? Because it’s completely different from modern Greek.
     
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    Yes, it's odd because it identifies it as Greek but then it can't translate any of it.
     
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  12. jackoverfull

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    Well, the alphabet is still the same…
     
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  13. KennyB

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    I'm headed to the cinema for the first time since Dec 2019 on Thursday........so I completely understand
     
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    I've already resumed/stopped/resumed/stopped going to movies a couple of times this year. I really hate American culture right about now.
     
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  15. Tim Thomason

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    I watch the latest Hollywood blockbusters on my phone on the way to work. Just like every mainstream director intended.
     
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  16. DonIago

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    I keep wanting to go back to the theater (though I haven't seen any trailers for movies I found especially compelling, so...), and I live in VT, which gives me a perhaps false sense that I'd likely be fine anyhow, but I haven't quite talked myself into it yet...

    Maybe in part because for a couple of months I'd stopped wearing a mask when I went to the grocery store, but I'm back to doing that.
     
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  17. Bad Robot

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    :p

     
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    NOW! RIGHT NOW! THIS VERY MINUTE! OVERTURE PLAYING NOW!
     
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  19. DonIago

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    If it's one of the versions that plays over a black screen, then have you really "seen" the movie? :p
     
  20. jackoverfull

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    mine had it over a star field…the first time I saw this cut (it wasn’t on my old VHS) I started laughing after a minute or so. Great way to start the movie.