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When was the last time you saw Star Trek The Motion Picture?

It was "the original pilot for Star Trek, and the first time Star Trek was boring. To modern eyes, Spock doesn’t look like Spock: Eyebrows too big, hair too mussed, a noose-collar atop a too-baggy uniform, flanking an un-Kirk Captain who looks too much like Jay Leno’s chin chest-bursting out of Ray Liotta’s face."

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Yikes, that guy certainly has a strong opinion of the pilot. It may not be action packed, but I only found it boring as a teenager in 1988 when I finally saw the whole thing. As I grew more mature, I really learned to appreciate it for the original take that it was and all of the care that went into crafting that story. Now, I really enjoy it. It's not boring at all to me.
 
Well, that was the issue, wasn’t it? Unless you dig into it it was pretty boring.
It was boring to me as a kid, but The Cage wasn't all that subtle where I had to really do much digging. As an adult, I gained more patience with drama. I found The Fugitive boring as a kid, but love it now. That doesn't mean the show was actually dull, I just didn't care for people talking instead of running, jumping or throwing hands.

As a kid, I had a hard time with The Conscience of the King and Metamorphosis too. As an adult, not so much.

The Mark of Gideon, tho, is still a yawner.
 
I totally agree with pretty much everything you wrote. The studios, though, wanted a less cerebral, more superficially exciting show, so they asked to rework the concept.
 
Yikes, that guy certainly has a strong opinion of the pilot. It may not be action packed, but I only found it boring as a teenager in 1988 when I finally saw the whole thing. As I grew more mature, I really learned to appreciate it for the original take that it was and all of the care that went into crafting that story. Now, I really enjoy it. It's not boring at all to me.
He's just setting the stage for his TVH review. He finds a lot to discuss in each of the Trek films; it's unlikely he views the entire Cage pilot as boring. But for ST's long-held reputation for being boring, he's making an aside that basically says "Here we're literally in the opening moments of all of ST and you can already see it." You could have said the same thing about the opening to Encounter At Farpoint.

I never found it boring, because I already liked the second pilot which I'd finally seen just two weeks earlier. Plus the Patrick Stewart special that bookended the Cage broadcast helped make for one of my most-watched VHS tapes over the following year.
 
And if it HAD been the basis for all future Star Trek, the Federation would have been a place where captains got into racial sex slave trading as a retirement career.
That was a fantasy, it’s not necessary for a similar situation to actually be possible.
He's just setting the stage for his TVH review. He finds a lot to discuss in each of the Trek films; it's unlikely he views the entire Cage pilot as boring. But for ST's long-held reputation for being boring, he's making an aside that basically says "Here we're literally in the opening moments of all of ST and you can already see it." You could have said the same thing about the opening to Encounter At Farpoint.

I never found it boring, because I already liked the second pilot which I'd finally seen just two weeks earlier. Plus the Patrick Stewart special that bookended the Cage broadcast helped make for one of my most-watched VHS tapes over the following year.
on this topic, I’ve been watching Star Trek with my girlfriend in the last few years, someone who previously had only seen some TOS episodes, she found both the cage and farpoint extremely boring.
 
I wonder if TMP may have worked best as a limited series. Do a seven samurai deal with getting everyone together.
 
In some measure context is lacking with TMP today. We have been inundated with new Trek for decades. And any of it, including TOS, can be revisited instantly by streaming or home video. Watching the TOS crew reassemble seems pointless, along with the reveal of the refit Enterprise, because it’s not an event anymore like it was in ‘79 after a dry decade of nothing but reruns and TAS being the only new Trek some years earlier. That and some novels and merchandise.

Fans wanted the crew dynamic just as they had last seen in TOS, but that isn’t there right off because some had gone off in different directions. Thats more realistic than what we got in the later films, but it bugs people because it’s not what they expected from the get-go.

This is the story Paramount chose partly because they wanted a big fx extravaganza. It showed, again, that they didn’t get Star Trek. They wanted, like many fans at the time, for it to be more like Star Wars from two years earlier. There is nothing inherently wrong with the main story in TMP, but there isn’t enough going on to stretch it out for two hours—if that had been addressed in the script it could have helped immeasurably.

A better solution might have been to simply have the crew together aboard the refit E early in its new voyage and then jump into the adventure. There could still have been plenty of opportunity for snippets of dialogue to glimpse backstory of where the characters had been the past few years. And there certainly would be ample opportunity for beauty shots of the refit E just like what we had aplenty in TOS.

Although it wouldn’t exist for more than twenty years Master And Commander: The Far Side Of The World is an excellent example of a great Star Trek film never made. It’s a straightforward small scale adventure story superbly delivered with great writing, great acting and great visuals.
 
Oh my me, It must be 2005/6 since I saw this movie.

I was a bit bored, but that's hardly controversial is it?

Very much looking forward to seeing it through a more mature lens when I view the new 4K version.
 
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