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Spoilers Marvel Cinematic Universe spoiler-heavy speculation thread

What grade would you give the Marvel Cinematic Universe? (Ever-Changing Question)


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The cover date is February 1983. Kitty first appeared in X-Men #129 dated January 1980. So, it took her three years to go from thirteen to fourteen.

Typical enough for comic book time. Indeed, given how serialized comics stories are, a year's worth of monthly issues might span only a matter of weeks in-universe.
 
It was Mjolnir that was unusable by anyone that wasn't worthy, not the metal that was used to make Mjolnir. Once the hammer was destroyed my guess is the magic was broken and anyone could move the remains.

Most likely it was lost in a storm over the cliff or sunk into the ground and was grown over. Or maybe Thor went back and collected what he could find after IW. Or Shield detected the destruction and swooped in, putting it away in some lab.

Makes me wonder what SHIELD did with the Destroyer's remains after Thor 1. If they gave it back to Thor when he took Loki and the Tesseract or not.
 
You know, something occurred to me.

Did they ever explain what happened to the pieces of Mjolnir after Hela destroyed it in Ragnarok? Even if the magic in there is gone, it's still made of that special Asgardian Metal.

No, they were completely forgotten after that moment. They're probably still sitting on that Norwegian cliffside and no one is able to move them...assuming anyone even noticed them.

Watch this space.... That's all I'm gonna say.
 
Watch this space.... That's all I'm gonna say.
My assumption is that new Asgard is where Mjolnir's remains lay. The bluff overlooking the ocean where Thor made Brunhillde King of Asgard seems to be the same bluff overlooking the water where Odin passed and Thor and Loki confronted Hela. And, yes, I know that New Asgard is located in the same city that we saw in Captain America the First Avenger and the first Thor. Where else would Odin go?

Odin: "This could be Asgard."
 
My assumption is that new Asgard is where Mjolnir's remains lay. The bluff overlooking the ocean where Thor made Brunhillde King of Asgard seems to be the same bluff overlooking the water where Odin passed and Thor and Loki confronted Hela. And, yes, I know that New Asgard is located in the same city that we saw in Captain America the First Avenger and the first Thor. Where else would Odin go?

Odin: "This could be Asgard."
The Asgardian settlement is in Tønsberg, Norway which is the same town seen in The First Avenger where Red Skull found the Tesseract hidden. Ragnarok doesn't say where that bluff was located other than Norway so it might be the same place.

That said, I didn't think about Love and Thunder. I had been thinking about how Jane will become Thor, especially since Mjolnir was destroyed but perhaps that development is tied in with Mjolnir's recovery...and perhaps reforging?
 
I just remembered the wacky theories about Endgame, like how they were gonna make their own Gauntlet for the Stones (they did) and they'd just Mjolnir's remains to make it so to contain their power.
 
https://twitter.com/DiscussingFilm/status/1441439956350738433

Disney’s Marvel unit is suing to hold on to full control of Avengers characters including Iron Man, Spider-Man, Dr. Strange, Ant-Man, Hawkeye, Black Widow, Falcon, Thor and others.

The complaints, which The Hollywood Reporter has obtained, come against the heirs of some late comic book geniuses including Stan Lee, Steve Ditko and Gene Colan. The suits seek declaratory relief that these blockbuster characters are ineligible for copyright termination as works made for hire. If Marvel loses, Disney would have to share ownership of characters worth billions.



The lawyer representing the 'heirs' is the same lawyer who sued DC to try to have Superman relinquished(he didn't succeed). The lawyer representing Marvel is the same lawyer who represented DC in that Superman case(he won).

I would expect the outcome to likely be similar to the Superman/DC case.
 
Here's the original Hollywood Reporter article (so you don't have to go to Twitter first).

I was unfamiliar with the DC/Superman case until now but I have to say I'm not surprised by this lawsuit, especially in light of the Disney/Star Wars situation where Disney is refusing to pay royalties to authors they're still making money off of.
 
The characters were never under the ownership of the individuals, and its especially shitty for the families of the deceased to try to get some money from stuff their relatives did. Disney/Marvel will 100% win this, the only question is whether they'll settle to make this go away quicker or if they'll take it to court to make an example out of the people suing so that they don't have to deal with a dozen of these ridiculous lawsuits. I can just imagine someone like (as a completely made up example) Bill Everett's second cousin (twice removed) suing Disney to get the rights/money for Daredevil and Namor because they saw other people get some money from these types of lawsuits.
 
Its especially shitty for the families of the deceased to try to get some money from stuff their relatives did.

One of the folks involved here is Larry Lieber, who scripted the very first Iron Man and Thor stories and is still very much alive. As for the creators who aren't alive, does anyone doubt they'd rather the money to go to their children and relatives than giant corporations?

When something similar to all this happened with the Kirby estate, Marvel apparently decided to settle at the eleventh hour rather than risk it going to the Supreme Court, because if they lost there that would set precedent. Maybe, hopefully, the same course will play out this time.
 
One of the folks involved here is Larry Lieber, who scripted the very first Iron Man and Thor stories and is still very much alive. As for the creators who aren't alive, does anyone doubt they'd rather the money to go to their children and relatives than giant corporations?

When something similar to all this happened with the Kirby estate, Marvel apparently decided to settle at the eleventh hour rather than risk it going to the Supreme Court, because if they lost there that would set precedent. Maybe, hopefully, the same course will play out this time.
I hope so. I remember the Seigel & Schuster suit. It took years of fighting just to get "created by" credit. There would be no comics as we know them without these people. It's only right to give a little of the billions back.
 
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