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Stills from the movie (or maybe they were photos taken separately; it's not always readily apparent) already existed in the form of lobby cards, but those probably didn't show all the parts of the ship interior that they would have wanted to look at. My gut feeling tells me that if they had the equipment capable of making stills on paper from a borrowed film print, then they would have gone ahead and done it anyway for their own internal use, even if there were legal technicalities that said they really weren't supposed to. Of course, that's pure speculation on my part about the "behind the scenes" goings-on of the show business industry, which hasn't necessarily always been known as a bastion of ethics and integrity.
Kor
Kor
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I don't understand. You run a website that's all about meticulously detailed research into arcane bits of Trek trivia that most people wouldn't consider important enough to be worth discussing. I'm trying to do the same thing, as an exercise in curiosity. Is it "worth" discussing? Obviously that depends on the individual. I find it worthwhile to ask questions and wonder about things and try to solve puzzles. I thought you did too.
Fact Trek is hardly just a "meticulously detailed research into the arcane bits of Trek trivia [website] that most people wouldn't consider important enough to be worth discussing."
It has a clear mission that goes beyond looking into the arcane, where it busts myths built up over decades of telephone. And it's not about speculation, but based on documentation and fact.
This discussion into an unclear statement made in one memo on a film print is pure speculation. There are no hard facts to look into. There's a clear difference.
INSUFFICIENT DATA /Majel monotone
The underlined above is inferring something unsupported by the memo cited. Nothing there says they went to MGM, the memo says "we saw MGM’s 'FORBIDDEN PLANET'". It's more likely they got a print to screen at Desilu. Careful about jumping to conclusions; that's how Cash Markmans are born.
Did someone say Cash?
(This one is for @Indysolo!)
Indysolo owns "Did Someone Say Cash?"
I specifically put that there for Indysolo.
I bristle of the characterization “arcane bits of Trek trivia”. We’re trying to add to and correct the historical record around a bunch of stuff that is steeped in pop culture mythology, and to set the show in the historic context of media of the time as opposed to the tendency to portray it as a wholly unique exemplar. What Gene Roddenberry may have meant by the word “get” does not qualify.
A number of people did collect actual films, 32 mm or 16 mm film on reels, obtained legally or otherwise.. A number of otherwise lost movies now exist in full or in part only from copies preserved by such private collectors. For exmple, a number of copies of lost episodes of Doctor Who have been preserved only in private film collections.
I remember looking at a film catalog in my high school back in the 1960s listing various feature films which could be rented or bought, I don't know which. I think that I remember that the science fiction film The Damned or These are The Damned (1962) was one of them.
And I remember lookig at another film catalog in another location during the 1960s. I noted that among the films which could be rented or bought were some science ficiton films - I think I remember Battle of the Worlds (1961).
So if my memory is correct it would have been possible in the 1960s to rent or buy copies of some films, although I don't know whether The Forbidden Planet was one of them.
I remember looking at a film catalog in my high school back in the 1960s listing various feature films which could be rented or bought, I don't know which. I think that I remember that the science fiction film The Damned or These are The Damned (1962) was one of them.
And I remember lookig at another film catalog in another location during the 1960s. I noted that among the films which could be rented or bought were some science ficiton films - I think I remember Battle of the Worlds (1961).
So if my memory is correct it would have been possible in the 1960s to rent or buy copies of some films, although I don't know whether The Forbidden Planet was one of them.
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I think availability might have been different for those in the industry, versus the general public.
Kor
Good! I've always found that myth annoying for some reason.
Sir Rhosis
Sir Rhosis
That thing with the unsourced claim on Memory Alpha finding its way, uncredited, into a book, and then Memory Alpha citing the book as its source, is a classic. Very frustrating.
