Is the bridge at a funny angle?

[scotpens]

Funny Angles was the best standup comedy lounge of the 1980s.

I always found the humor rather obtuse.

That's acute observation.

 

[GNDN18]

 

[MAGolding]

It's right there, in the second image that you quoted.

All I see are a bunch of little screens which have tiny little vague images on them, and a bolt of lightening. I don't seen any clear images of anything in the little screens show in the image in question.

 

[danellis]

This thread is now offset by 35 degrees.

42, actually lmao

dJE

 

[CorporalCaptain]

All I see are a bunch of little screens which have tiny little vague images on them, and a bolt of lightening. I don't seen any clear images of anything in the little screens show in the image in question.

Here are some more images, from TrekCore, at different resolutions.

https://movies.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/tmp/themotionpicture0880.jpg
https://movies.trekcore.com/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=20

https://movies.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/tmp2/tmphd1684.jpg
https://movies.trekcore.com/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=593

Other images from the scene have also been been posted upthread.

If you still have doubts regarding what is being shown on the screens, then I suggest you explore these or other frames from the scene at higher resolution. What part of the movie this is should be completely clear.

 

[Mudd]

All I see are a bunch of little screens which have tiny little vague images on them, and a bolt of lightening. I don't seen any clear images of anything in the little screens show in the image in question.

Look again, then.

Not seeing what is clearly in the image is not the same thing as the image not including it. Not remotely.

 

[BK613]

42, actually lmao

dJE

47. Must allow for it being a inflationary universe, after all.

 

[DonIago]

I'm amused that I'm reading this on page 42 of the thread (for me at least).

 

[cooleddie74]

Try a different slant to look at it.

 

[Ryan Thomas Riddle]

Try a different slant to look at it.

We're just not looking at this issue from every possible angle.

 

[cooleddie74]

Up, down, whatever. It's all just shifting the deckplates from one place to another.

 

[Mres_was_framed!]

Why?

The Enterprise was rushed through refit to intercept V'ger. It's not at all unbelievable that a display interface that would be activated only in circumstances that quite possibly never occurred in the interim* and that in any case did not itself require metrical fidelity might get "left behind." It was actually the class ship representation, as one can tell by the registry number, and not specifically a graphic of the Enterprise herself [https://movies.trekcore.com/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=401&page=2]. In universe, it's possible that during the refit a place-holder schematic was inserted into the security subsystem for certain types of alerts, and it was never looked at again, because an officer had marked the schematic as adequately set during the launch prep. Metrical fidelity would be more necessary in the quarters plan in the second graphic, so we can conclude that the follow-up graphic is more likely supposed to be accurate (whatever its source IRL, which could well be FJ, I've not checked, doesn't matter that much).

Admiral Morrow said that command felt the Enterprise had had her day, and perhaps there was good reason that he and they believed that the best course of action was simply to retire her. There being computer code and corresponding data in need of an overhaul believably could have been one of those reasons.

* - And, yes, in case you're wondering, perhaps to the subsystem, this type of breach was classified differently than when the Ilia probe came aboard.

If I recall correctly, the dialogue here is "It's running our records! Earth defenses. Starfleet strengths!"

Some say this diagram has to be ignored because it does not contain the current configuration of the ship. There is no reason it WOULD contain a current schematic, if it was running through "records", i.e. documents made in the past about whatever time they were made.

While I'm at it, has anybody actually analyzed the directions the crew get thrown about, to see if the way the crew reacts actually reflect a forward facing bridge?

...I mean, if the ship gets hit with a phaser blast and then everyone leans or goes flying directly to the right of the set, how do we know that the phaser hit the ship directly broadside? The way the crew leans and flies about might actually support the idea of an offset bridge, insomuch as very few obstacles would actually hit them 100% head on...

 

[CorporalCaptain]

If I recall correctly, the dialogue here is "It's running our records! Earth defenses. Starfleet strengths!"

Some say this diagram has to be ignored because it does not contain the current configuration of the ship. There is no reason it WOULD contain a current schematic, if it was running through "records", i.e. documents made in the past about whatever time they were made.

While I'm at it, has anybody actually analyzed the directions the crew get thrown about, to see if the way the crew reacts actually reflect a forward facing bridge?

...I mean, if the ship gets hit with a phaser blast and then everyone leans or goes flying directly to the right of the set, how do we know that the phaser hit the ship directly broadside? The way the crew leans and flies about might actually support the idea of an offset bridge, insomuch as very few obstacles would actually hit them 100% head on...

The post I was responding to said:

Yes, let’s forget that Franz Joseph’s blueprints were used to (mis)represent the refit in Star Trek III​

(emphasis mine) The pictures I cited were from STIII. I was talking about TSFS.

 

[Mytran]

While I'm at it, has anybody actually analyzed the directions the crew get thrown about, to see if the way the crew reacts actually reflect a forward facing bridge?

...I mean, if the ship gets hit with a phaser blast and then everyone leans or goes flying directly to the right of the set, how do we know that the phaser hit the ship directly broadside? The way the crew leans and flies about might actually support the idea of an offset bridge, insomuch as very few obstacles would actually hit them 100% head on...

Scenes of combat are tricky to analyse because the ship is usually also doing maneuvres at the time.
However, a great and clear example is in Arena where the ship is brought to a rapid stop and all the crew are flung towards the viewscreen:

 

[CorporalCaptain]

Scenes of combat are tricky to analyse because the ship is usually also doing maneuvres at the time.
However, a great and clear example is in Arena where the ship is brought to a rapid stop and all the crew are flung towards the viewscreen:

Yeah, and I won't deny that IMO that's solid evidence in the camp of "bridge faces forward."

However, team "bridge at an angle" can claim it too, by calling into question how inertial dampeners work or whether the ship was maneuvering, just to name two issues.

 

[BK613]

Yeah, and I won't deny that IMO that's solid evidence in the camp of "bridge faces forward."

However, team "bridge at an angle" can claim it too, by calling into question how inertial dampeners work or whether the ship was maneuvering, just to name two issues.

Or they are being yanked in the direction of the Metrons' star system by their 'tractor' beam.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

Or they are being yanked in the direction of the Metrons' star system.

Which just happens to have a bearing of 36 degrees to port. Boom.

Or maybe even 144 degrees to starboard.

 

[NCC-73515]

I remember Uhura being thrown in a completely different direction from the rest of the crew once XD

 

[Mytran]

However, team "bridge at an angle" can claim it too, by calling into question how inertial dampeners work or whether the ship was maneuvering, just to name two issues.

Or they are being yanked in the direction of the Metrons' star system by their tractor beam.

At this point in the episode the Gorn ship had stopped and the Enterprise was barelling towards her target at Warp 8 - then she was stopped dead in her tracks.
No yanking to the side was required or even mentioned

 

[BK613]

At this point in the episode the Gorn ship had stopped and the Enterprise was barelling towards her target at Warp 8 - then she was stopped dead in her tracks.
No yanking to the side was required or even mentioned

Just like there is usually no maneuvering mentioned when non-viewer-direction tosses are shown. And the E did not stopped instantaneously; Sulu counts down the velocities. So they were dragged to a stop in some direction...