Poll Should Lower Decks acknowledge modern Trek?

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Lower Decks' started by F. King Daniel, Jul 23, 2021.

?

Should Lower Decks reference modern Trek?

  1. Yes, I want Disco/Picard/SNW references too!

    62 vote(s)
    72.9%
  2. No, only reference Trek up until ENT

    23 vote(s)
    27.1%
  1. Aragorn

    Aragorn Fleet Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Dec 30, 2002
    They should start referencing Star Wars, The Expanse, Babylon 5 and Battlestar Galactica. :D
     
    Last edited: Aug 12, 2021
  2. Mogh

    Mogh Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Joined:
    Jan 2, 2001
    Location:
    London, UK
    I mean technically, there's nothing stopping BSG being the very distant past in the same timeline...
     
    Ketrick likes this.
  3. Kelso

    Kelso Vice Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    May 3, 2001
    Location:
    On the destruct button until the last minute!
    One of the great things about LDS is that it celebrates all of Trek. So, yes, modern Trek references are welcome.
     
    Richard S. Ta likes this.
  4. Mr. Laser Beam

    Mr. Laser Beam Fleet Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    May 10, 2005
    Location:
    Confederation of Earth
    Depends on which version you're talking about:

    The original BSG is, at the very earliest, set in the 20th century, because they pick up the Apollo 11 signals in the final episode. However as they point out, that signal could have been bouncing around the ether for centuries or even millennia. So BSG-TOS' time frame is basically a complete unknown, except for the fact that we know it CAN'T be the past.

    As for nuBSG: We do know when it was set - 150,000 years ago. So *IT* is obviously the past. TOS can't be.

    I'm totally ignoring G1980 in the above bit, BTW. ;)

    "I think he did a little too much LDS." :D
     
    Mogh likes this.
  5. XCV330

    XCV330 Premium Member

    Joined:
    Sep 24, 2017
    Location:
    XCV330
    I do wonder if they will address the Equinox's Ransom at some point.
     
  6. Mr. Laser Beam

    Mr. Laser Beam Fleet Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    May 10, 2005
    Location:
    Confederation of Earth
    You mean, is he related to Jack? I doubt it. It's a common enough name.
     
    DEWLine and Mogh like this.
  7. XCV330

    XCV330 Premium Member

    Joined:
    Sep 24, 2017
    Location:
    XCV330
    Look at all the multi-generational Starfleet families though.
    Kirk, Freeman, Paris, Decker. I know there are others I am missing.

    added: Crusher
     
  8. Mogh

    Mogh Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Joined:
    Jan 2, 2001
    Location:
    London, UK
    That, and Lower Decks never knowingly misses a chance to make a canon reference.
     
    Last edited: Aug 14, 2021
    F. King Daniel likes this.
  9. Tim Thomason

    Tim Thomason Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Joined:
    May 27, 2009
    Location:
    USS Protostar
    Amongst the main characters:
    * TOS/TAS: Kirk, Scott/Preston, Sulu
    * TNG: Picard (ancestor was in UESPA), Riker (father a civilian consultant), La Forge, Crusher, Troi
    * Voyager: Janeway, Paris, Tuvok's family
    * Discovery: Burnham (Section 31 parents)
    * LD: Freeman/Mariner

    Additionally, it was suggested by later writers that Valerie Archer was descended from Jonathan Archer, suggesting another Starfleet dynasty there (and non-canon is full of Starfleet families for pretty much all characters in some form). The Ransom possibility is similar to the Archer possibility, and may come up someday, although I can't really see an easy way to fit the reference in, even with Lower Decks' standard of sledgehammering in references sometimes.
     
    Mogh and XCV330 like this.
  10. dupersuper

    dupersuper Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2020
    There was also Garovick (sp?), the security officer who was the son of Kirks old captain, and according to Star Trek Continues there's also Garret (as in Captain of the Enterprise C).
     
    Last edited: Aug 14, 2021
    Tim Thomason likes this.
  11. Uhura's Song

    Uhura's Song Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2017
    Hard to reference future events, yes?

    Perhaps S1 Disco, but that is all hush hush. SNW should be fair game.
     
  12. Charles Phipps

    Charles Phipps Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2011
    I believe there SHOULD be at least one reference to DISCO on Lower Decks:

    Boimler: I want you to meet my sister.

    Mariner: Wait, you don't have a sister.

    Boimler: Of course I have a sister.

    Mariner: You can't just introduce a sibling you never mentioned!

    Boimler: Spock did it twice!
     
  13. Zor-El

    Zor-El Ensign Newbie

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2021
    Location:
    Neutral Zone
    I think it'd be neat if we saw some of the newer aliens in the background like the octopus/spider face lady we always see on DIS but I'd like Lower Decks to stand on its own and not worry about crossovers.
     
  14. Charles Phipps

    Charles Phipps Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2011
    I mean I think DISCO is rife for making the kind of jokes that make Lower Decks fine. Not because I dislike Disco but because I love it.

    And you could make Picard ones too.

    Boimler: Holy crap, according to these readings, the Sun of Romulus is going to explode and kill everyone.

    Mariner: Eh, leave it.

    Boimler: What?

    Mariner: What, like the Romulans are going to ignore their sun exploding. That's like people on Earth ignoring green house gasses.

    Boimler: Oh right. *chucks datapad*
     
    Ketrick, F. King Daniel and ATimson like this.
  15. Turtletrekker

    Turtletrekker Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Aug 23, 2003
    Location:
    Tacoma, Washington
    I'm pretty sure that one of the security officers that took Mariner away in the Lower Decks season premier was Xahean, and if so, that would make them the first New Era alien to appear in every iteration (including Short Treks, where they were introduced) of modern Trek.
     
    Last edited: Aug 16, 2021
    Charles Phipps likes this.
  16. Tim Thomason

    Tim Thomason Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Joined:
    May 27, 2009
    Location:
    USS Protostar
    He was Antaran. He's been on the show since the first episode. A regular background character, and one of two Antarans (the other being the Alhambra version of Ransom) seen on the show.

    Antarans were featured in just one episode of Enterprise, previously.
     
    Mogh and Charles Phipps like this.
  17. Turtletrekker

    Turtletrekker Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Aug 23, 2003
    Location:
    Tacoma, Washington
    I stand corrected. Thank you for the clarification.
     
    Tim Thomason and Mogh like this.
  18. Charles Phipps

    Charles Phipps Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2011
    I think light ribbing of the Kurtzman era would go over fine to be honest.

    Boimler: Section 31! Those guys are an illegal terrorist organization in the Federation!

    Mariner: Yeah, they totally harsh our vibe and cool idealistic nature!

    Rutherford: It says here they used to be a branch of Starfleet Intelligence.

    Boimler: Yeah, like a hundred and fifty years ago. Then their AI tried to kill all life.

    Rutherford: *tugs collar* Uh, they punish people for that?
     
    Kelso and Jinn like this.
  19. DEWLine

    DEWLine Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2003
    Location:
    Ottawa, Canada
    They ARE part of the Kurtzman era. If they take shots at their own gaffes, that's fine.
     
    Qonundrum likes this.
  20. Qonundrum

    Qonundrum Vice Admiral Admiral

    Why not? If they keep the same tone LD has used for the original and spinoffs, and that's one of the cool things about this show is the balance of tones it quickly showed it had from day one. It might get more people interested in the other shows, if they're tuning into this one for the first time - or people on the fence with the new shows. Or maybe those who tried the first time, disliked it, but have warmed up to it more since.
    ?