I completely agree.
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I completely agree.
It has the worst special effects and editing of all 13 existing movies but damn, does the chemistry between the lead characters and several key scenes elevate it above where it ought to rank.
That's like trying to decide which steaming mound of shit one prefers to fall face-first into.
Then give me the steaming mound of shit that feels the most like Star Trek. 
Yes.
Ehhhh…no, not quite. While I love the chemistry between the Big 3 in TFF the god being reveal is still hard to swallow. Sybok, while fun, needed something else. ST ID, for all its faults (few of which I would call
) had an antagonist that I fully bought in to.
I'll take half-agreement. 
Robocop or Sherlock?
That I grant you.
It’s also better than INS and GEN.
Possibly INS. But I have a huge soft spot in my heart for GEN and I think that one generally holds up pretty well despite the plot contrivances and logical loopholes.
With more competent special effects, better direction and editing and a far better explanation for how the Enterprise-A could get to the center of the galaxy so quickly TFF would have been a much better and more well-received film. The problems it has aren't really that many but they drag it down and low enough that it's reputation has suffered for 32 years.
Yeah, I have the same soft spot for Generations.
It's incredibly well shot...from the opening champagne bottle to the lighting in the scene between Troi and Picard in his quarters...it's just visually lovely.
Yes it makes no sense, but in my mind, few Trek movies make any sense...(ST09, I'm looking at you...
).
Hell, most Trek movies make little sense. That's...oh, what is it called...being Star Trek. 
Again, I wouldn't call any Star Trek movie a "good movie". As movies they are all kinda unspectacular and feel more like long episodes than proper movies.
But even as a long episode TFF is unspeakably awful in every possible aspect.
But even as a long episode TFF is unspeakably awful in every possible aspect.
TFF really suffers from poor special effects. The scene where Kirk falls off El Capitan is particularly amateurish.
And yes, Sybok being Spock's brother was pointless (really added nothing to the story. Sybok easily could have been a kid Spock went to school with or something). They could have cut the Klingon ship thing out completely.
And yet...there is a warmth to this film. And I think the original premise ("Search for God, find the Devil") is a compelling one.
I don't know. I manage to enjoy this film despite it's many flaws. I would watch 100 times in a row before I sat through TMP again.
THE FINAL FRONTIER is worth it's existence for three things.
1. The campfire scenes.
2. "I need my pain!" speech by Kirk.
3. McCoy with his father.
Everything else is negotiable about this film, but those were some of the best scenes of the TOS movie era. Period.
1. The campfire scenes.
2. "I need my pain!" speech by Kirk.
3. McCoy with his father.
Everything else is negotiable about this film, but those were some of the best scenes of the TOS movie era. Period.
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