CBS/Paramount sues to stop Axanar 2 - Electric Boogaloo-Fanboys gone WILD-too many hyphens

Discussion in 'Fan Productions' started by jespah, May 10, 2018.

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  1. Maurice

    Maurice Snagglepussed Admiral

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    Oh FFS...that trailer was rank amateur hour. Even the audio levels are all over the place.
     
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  2. Matthew Raymond

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    Out of curiosity, what would motivate you to donate to a crowdfunded project? If you had the power to dictate any conditions on crowdfunded projects you wanted, what conditions would you impose?
     
  3. MikeH92467

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    I'll know it when I see it.
     
  4. Sgt_G

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    ^^^ Oh, so it's like porn. You can't describe, but you know it when you see it. :eek:
     
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  5. MikeH92467

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    If I can be bothered:)
     
  6. drt

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    I guess I just find it funny that someone supposedly creative as Jenkins feels the need to do something Axanar related instead of an original project - almost like he believes there’s more money in squeezing Trek fans.
     
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  7. F. King Daniel

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    Axanar has definitely been enough of an ongoing dumpster fire that it's worthy of a documentary.

    And having read the Axanar scripts, very likely to be more entertaining than the Axanar feature or shorts.
     
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  8. Steve Roby

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    I contributed to a documentary crowdfunder that's unfinished and now well past its original deadline, but it's about some old friends of mine and their band. The main documentary producer has known my friends for years and has a track record, including another documentary I've already seen. In that case I'm comfortable enough and not worrying about my money. I'll see the end product eventually.

    I won't donate to Jenkins's documentary, though. There absolutely is a great story to be told about the Axanar saga, but it won't be told by any of its participants. Jenkins walked into this after the court case, FFS. He had all the info he needed to know he was making a very bad decision. And he went right on ahead and it blew up in his face. He's not an objective observer. A good documentary would have input from as many people as possible, including him, but the guiding hand editing the final product should, in my opinion, be someone without an axe to grind.
     
  9. Jedi_Master

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    I've seen the pitch and the promotional materials for the "documentary" and I'm sorry - no thanks.
    Even though I have been on the ground for this mess since before Alec was sued by CBS, I don't trust the way they are going about things, and I think enough money has been drained from the coffers of Trek fans by this debacle as it is, so the crowd-funding aspect and the eye-popping budget is a huge turn off for me.
     
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  10. Therin of Andor

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    I am very cautious. Can I trust them to complete it? It's always a gamble.

    The second "Starship Exeter" (after a cameo in the first one).

    "Renegades".

    Its two-part sequel, "The Requiem" (which, sadly, ended up having most of the Trek shaved off it).

    The documentary on DS9 (which was excellent!) and now the same team are working on one for VGR.

    And a recent "Dreadstar" graphic novel.
     
  11. Matthew Raymond

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    Saw that in the theater. I have the poster they gave out framed. I'd be game for a similar Voyager documentary.
     
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  12. JD

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    At this point, I don't think I would ever donate to a movie or anything like that. I've got a whole list of animal sanctuaries, rescues, and groups like that that any money I can donate to something would go too. There's already one that is doing a T-Shirt fundraiser later this yeah that I'm planning on giving too.
     
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  13. Sgt_G

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    I did toss $19 at the Cranking The Cryptic guys for their upcoming Sudoku book. It's what I would have to pay at Barnes & Noble anyway, right? Other than that, no, I'm too stingy to toss money at "projects" like fan-films and such.
     
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  16. Admiral2

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    So, I have to give Paul Jenkins money in order to stand up to Alec Peters' legal bullying?

    It seems to me that there wouldn't be any legal interaction with Peters of any kind if I'd never been stupid enough to A) give him money or B) volunteer to work for him...and I've never been that stupid.

    I also don't want to shell out good money so that Jenkins - or anyone else - be spared the cost of the consequences of their own actions. He has a family? So do I, and I protect mine from Peters by not putting myself in a position where I can be sued by him. It's not my fault Jenkins wasn't that careful.
     
  17. Maurice

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    Everyone post-Gossett were idiots to get involved with this trainwreck. I have zip sympathy for people who couldn't be arsed to do the due diligence that would have warned off anyone with a lick of sense.
     
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  18. drt

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    It’s honestly baffling to me.

    Jenkins knew that CBS had sued Peters, you think that should have been enough of a red flag, particularly for someone who works in an industry involving intellectual property.

    It also seems to me that Jenkins probably could have walked away without being sued by simply stating he was too busy, but instead decided to badmouth Peters (I suppose to try and reclaim some credibility), plus take his “script” with him, which was doubtful worth anything close to the $150k it apparently ended up costing him.
     
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  19. CorporalCaptain

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    Sorry, I'm out-of-the-know on this aspect. Do you have any neutral party links for the part about Jenkins being out $150K?
     
  20. drt

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    No, just repeating what was in Jenkins’ blog above, which is why I qualified it with the “apparently”.