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Raffi's poverty

It doesn't taste the same though, according to some people.....

Do you know why canned food for example tastes different from fresh food?

Because it is different! Demonstrably different. If two things taste different it's because at the molecular level there are detectable, analyzable differences.

Replicated food should taste exactly the same.
 
I'm not just talking about food, I collect antiques, a reproduction is never as good as an original, even if the quality is the same.

If it's replicated it should be impossible to tell from the original. In fact, if you put both in a room and someone asked you to choose one, there's a fifty-fifty chance that you'd pick the wrong one.
 
You must not like Scotty or McCoy then. I could easily see both of them existing in the modern day (or at least the 60s)
And I suppose you would say Miles O'Brien as well.

Again there's a balance. You don't want someone to be so different they're not relatable to our reality at all, but you also don't want a generic stereo type of a person today or else it doesn't feel like the future.
 
If it's replicated it should be impossible to tell from the original. In fact, if you put both in a room and someone asked you to choose one, there's a fifty-fifty chance that you'd pick the wrong one.
That's not the point. There is value in original things.

And I suppose you would say Miles O'Brien as well.

Again there's a balance. You don't want someone to be so different they're not relatable to our reality at all, but you also don't want a generic stereo type of a person today or else it doesn't feel like the future.
She is not out of place with the rest of the Star Trek universe. We've seen people similar to her before.

Yeah, because of voodoo.

You're thinking too hard.
 
Whether it's poverty or isolationist, my issue was that she feels like she's from present day rather than a person from a different time.

The first time we see her (as I recall), she's vaping, drinking a 40oz, and even uses the term "pro tip". That's a person from present day.
Sorry, I don't see her from the present. But, as I said, I was engaged with the story and the characters. I would expect characters to be relatable, to the point of using rather common turns of phrase from the era in which they are written. See early TNG who acted like so many idioms were speaking a foreign language to these people, like they had never heard it before. Especially since many English idioms come from Shakespeare, TNG's only source of entertainment!

You're thinking too hard.
On a Star Trek board? Noooooo….that never happens ;)
 
Yeah, because of voodoo.
Fine, I'll work it in-universe.

Most food that comes out of a replicator has been said to be healthy, meaning it can't be made exactly out of the same stuff as food is today, meaning it's not 1:1 identical to making it yourself with real ingredients. Therefore there would be some minor taste difference.

Which is why Troi had to specifically request the replicator to make her ice cream out of real ice cream. If she had ordered a standard ice cream it would look and taste closley like ice cream but be made from healthy stuff.
 
Yeah, because of voodoo.

Because of the forgery problem for things that aren't food, I expect replicators have some sort of "watermark" hardwired so replicated items can be told from real ones with a simple scan. Need to make sure that Picasso is the real thing, all the more important in a world filled with replicated items.
 
Because of the forgery problem for things that aren't food, I expect replicators have some sort of "watermark" hardwired so replicated items can be told from real ones with a simple scan. Need to make sure that Picasso is the real thing, all the more important in a world filled with replicated items.

But if it looks exactly the same as a genuine Picasso then... who cares? Plus since everybody can have Picassos in the living room no one will even be tempted to steal them.

The real ones could be kept in a safe... in case of art historians wanting to study them for scientific purposes.
 
People who like art?

Not true. If a copy is exactly the same, artistically speaking it's the same too. People who are bothered that even if they can't tell the difference there is technically one are not art lovers, they are snobbish maniacs who likely don't like art as much as they'd like to think they do.
Like people who'd buy a napkin with some snot on it because they've received assurances that it belongs to some celebrity. That's not what art is about.
 
If you remember the show Frasier:

That reminds me of what Daphne once told Frasier about his tastes in cuisine: "You'd eat a worm if I gave it a French name."
 
Not true. If a copy is exactly the same, artistically speaking it's the same too. People who are bothered that even if they can't tell the difference there is technically one are not art lovers, they are snobbish maniacs who likely don't like art as much as they'd like to think they do.
Like people who'd buy a napkin with some snot on it because they've received assurances that it belongs to some celebrity. That's not what art is about.
Man you're rude.
 
If you remember the show Frasier:

That reminds me of what Daphne once told Frasier about his tastes in cuisine: "You'd eat a worm if I gave it a French name."
I mean, yes and no. Isn't part of great art not only the look but also the appreciation for the technique by the materials of the time. There's more to it than just "That's looks very nice."

Reproductions are good but if people appreciate art then close isn't good enough. At least from my understanding. Replicators may be good enough but an appreciation for originality will not quite be satisfied by good enough.
 
There's a balance in good science fiction / fantasy. Elements aren't so foreign that they have no grounding in our own relatable reality, but at the same time you want things that are different and imaginative which is part of the reason we like Sci-Fi and fantasy in the first place.

In the Expanse they put thought into portraying poverty and socio-economic classes in the future. In Picard Raffi is a generic stereotype of a lower economic class person of today.
Really? The Expanse's version of poverty seemed very contemporary to me. Both in Amos' Baltimore and the Belt. The only poverty Raffi seems to be suffering from is the emotional and mental kind that comes from losing one's sense of purpose.
 
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