CBS/Paramount sues to stop Axanar 2 - Electric Boogaloo-Fanboys gone WILD-too many hyphens

Discussion in 'Fan Productions' started by jespah, May 10, 2018.

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  3. Yes, any kind

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  1. David cgc

    David cgc Admiral Premium Member

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    Apparently, people have been writing to Creation saying featuring Axanar at the convention isn't the best idea. In a prime example of the Streisand Effect, I found that out from a very thirsty email newsletter begging to write emails to Creation about how great Axanar is.

     
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  2. F. King Daniel

    F. King Daniel Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    It's never a good sign when you have enough "haters" to launch a letter writing campaign against you:lol:

    I eagerly await Alec's mantrum agaisnt Creation when they realise what a pile of steaming shit they're working with and ditch him like everyone else has.
     
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  3. 137th Gebirg

    137th Gebirg Admiral Premium Member

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    Axanar just sent out an email about "haters" yesterday.
     
  4. Sgt_G

    Sgt_G Commodore Commodore

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    From what I hear, 90% of Axanar e-mails come in one of two flavors: Send Us More Money -and- Haters Are Mean To Us.
     
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  5. dmac

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    I thought the 5 years war should've been over like a year ago.
     
  6. Matthew Raymond

    Matthew Raymond Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    Is this it?
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  7. urbandefault

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    At this point, I just want to sit back and anticipate the next exciting episode of AXASHITSHOW!!!

    Can we hashtag that? :techman:
     
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  8. Ryan Thomas Riddle

    Ryan Thomas Riddle Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Alec should learn to shake it off like Taylor Swift.
     
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  9. StCoop

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    This looks interesting...

    https://www.cbr.com/paul-jenkins-documentary-toxic-fan/

    Paul Jenkins is taking his experience with what he describes as a toxic fan and he is turning it into a documentary about his experience but also about toxic fandom in general.

    Yesterday, the longtime comic book writer tweeted out, "For the past year or so, my family and I have been under constant attack by a toxic fan. Today marks the beginning of the end of this cruelty. We are making a documentary, and we're making a stand."

    Today, he released the teaser for the documentary that he was referring to, called Into the Wormhole: The Battle for Axanar.

    The film is based around a fan-film, Axanar, which began life as a Star Trek fan film before various lawsuits caused it to drop the "Star Trek" part of the title. The film raised roughly $2 million but it has encountered numerous setbacks over the years. Paul Jenkins became involved in the project at one point and his involvement also eventually led to a lawsuit, as well.

    So the documentary explores Jenkins' personal experience with the fan behind the project, Alec Peters, who Jenkins describes as being the center of every setback and controversy on the project and what happened when Jenkins began to explore what happened to the money pledged for the making of Axanar.
     
  10. drt

    drt Commodore Commodore

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    Heh, considering that cbr.com article ends with a "if you are interested in supporting" plea, it seems that Jenkins learned a most important lesson from Peters: hobbies and pet projects are way more fun if you get other people to pay for it.
     
  11. Ryan Thomas Riddle

    Ryan Thomas Riddle Vice Admiral Admiral

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    I hope that Jenkins consults with Carlos, who's done the journalistic legwork in covering this debacle from the start.
     
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  12. Matthew Raymond

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    The entire trailer feels amateur. It seems to me that the people willing to shell out money for this documentary are the ones who need to learn the lessons of Axanar the most, so I guess it's appropriate.
     
  13. Sgt_G

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    All too true, but maybe, just maybe, we'll finally get an accurate accounting of where the two-plus million dollars went.
     
  14. Noname Given

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    I don't think so. Hell, Jenkins at the time (and the Director); wasn't even told the particulars of the CBS v. Axanar lawsuit, and you'd think the Director WOULD be given that info to be sure he doesn't come up with a vision for the film/shoots content that violates said settlement agreement.

    My point? If Alec Peters won't even do that, what makes you think he'd show Jenkins anything regarding Axanar financials? Hell, that's probably what clued Jenkins in that this was a scam...he probably asked about his production budget, and the current financial situation, was met with silence or discernable bullshit, went online to try and get some history of the project, leading to the situation as it stands today.
     
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  15. KennyB

    KennyB I have spoken............ Moderator

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    This seems more like a pitch video not a trailer........THEY are raising money too.
     
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  16. Matthew Raymond

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    @Noname Given, I actually agree with most of what you posted. One minor point of contention, though...
    Possibly. However, finances aren't the responsibility of the director in the first place. (Same for a writer.) Those responsibilities are typically the domain of the producer and co-producer.

    Furthermore, while it may make sense to give Jenkins the immediate production budget, so he knows how much money he has to play with, it makes no sense to give him historical information about the group's finances, as there is nothing Jenkins could actually do to help that situation, and it's pretty obvious now that he'd use that information against them instead. Choosing not to give him that financial info would be the rational and customary course of action rather than proof of guilt.
     
  17. JD

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    I don't have a problem with people using Kickstarter or whatever for something like this, as long as they actually deliver the product. Jenkins seems like he should hopefully be more trustworthy than Peters in that regard.
     
  18. Sgt_G

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    Yeah, like that's a high-bar to clear. Still, it's possible nothing will come of this......
     
  19. MikeH92467

    MikeH92467 Admiral Admiral

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    I won't say I'll never donate to a crowd-funded project, but the whole Axanar experience makes it a lot less likely.
    yy
     
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  20. KennyB

    KennyB I have spoken............ Moderator

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    Yup