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What's the worst canon decision in the history of Trek?

All episodes which do above warp 10 are something like not even supposed to happen.
Isn't warp 10 infinite speed where you're at every point of the universe at the same time?
 
All episodes which do above warp 10 are something like not even supposed to happen.
Isn't warp 10 infinite speed where you're at every point of the universe at the same time?

They only said that in Voyager.

They also implied that reaching warp 10 turns you into a salamander...

In TNG's "All Good Things..." they reach warp 13
 
They only said that in Voyager.

In TNG's "All Good Things..." they reach warp 13

Wasn't the warp 10 limit created when TNG was being developed?

About warp 13, someone here mentioned that maybe the warp scale was modified in the future and it's much less than it sounds.
 
Wasn't the warp 10 limit created when TNG was being developed?

About warp 13, someone here mentioned that maybe the warp scale was modified in the future and it's much less than it sounds.

That doesn't seem likely. I don't know if in TNG they say anything about warp 10 being a limit. They certainly don't do it in TOS, TAS, and in the movies. DS9 was not concerned by that sort of thing. That leaves only Voyager...
 
About warp 13, someone here mentioned that maybe the warp scale was modified in the future and it's much less than it sounds.

That would make sense. Otherwise, people would be saying "Warp 9.999-this" or "Warp 9.9999-that." They would almost have to revamp it, especially if quantum slipstream travel became commonplace, and the extremely high speeds that went with it.
 
That doesn't seem likely. I don't know if in TNG they say anything about warp 10 being a limit. They certainly don't do it in TOS, TAS, and in the movies. DS9 was not concerned by that sort of thing. That leaves only Voyager...

They might not have mentioned warp 10 limit in TNG, I don't remember.
But I remember reading an article about development of TNG written in 1994 and it said warp 10 was the limit.
 
According to various sources, the official, though never made canon, warp scale in the era of TOS had the fastest safe speed, warp factor 6, at 216 times teh speed of light, and the fastest emergency speed of the Enterprise, warp factor 8, was 512 times the speed of light.

And the TOS writers and staff were apparently bad at dowing time, distance, and speed problems in high school, because in most episodes where there is enough evidence to calculate time, distance, and speed answers the rsults are speeds far above the official speeds, or distances far shorter, or times far longer, than in the episodes..

When TNG was made, a new warp scale was introduced, where warp 9.0000 would be very fast, and warp 10 was impossible to achieve, being infinite speed.

Never confuse the TOS warp scale with the TNG warp scale, even though as far as I know neither scale was made canon in any episode.
 
Wasn't the warp 10 limit created when TNG was being developed?

About warp 13, someone here mentioned that maybe the warp scale was modified in the future and it's much less than it sounds.

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The worst canon decision in the history of Trek was setting Trek in specific Earth years. The whole reason stardates were invented was to prevent that, and then Space Seed and Wrath of Khan just basically bulldozed all that.

If they had to make an Earth-like dating system, then it should have been something like TOS set in the year 105 FE, where FE stands for Federation Era counting the years since the founding of the Federation. The Earth year the Federation was founded would never be revealed, thus allowing for Trek to always theoretically be "our" future.
 
It's amusing that we're told several times that Chronos is more than one thousand light-years away and given that Archer gets there in his first mission, said mission should have lasted longer than the whole series did. :lol:
 
It's amusing that we're told several times that Chronos is more than one thousand light-years away and given that Archer gets there in his first mission, said mission should have lasted longer than the whole series did. :lol:
Did they ever really say a thousand light years away? Anyway Kirk is able to get to the center of the galaxy pretty easily in the movies, while Voyager is nowhere near that fast, and that has never really been explained.
 
Did they ever really say a thousand light years away? Anyway Kirk is able to get to the center of the galaxy pretty easily in the movies, while Voyager is nowhere near that fast, and that has never really been explained.

In "All Our Yesterdays" Spock says that Vulcan is millions of light-years away... Our galaxy is only one hundred thousand light-years long.

so the only conclusion is that they are in another galaxy.:D
 
The worst canon decision in the history of Trek was setting Trek in specific Earth years. The whole reason stardates were invented was to prevent that, and then Space Seed and Wrath of Khan just basically bulldozed all that.

If they had to make an Earth-like dating system, then it should have been something like TOS set in the year 105 FE, where FE stands for Federation Era counting the years since the founding of the Federation. The Earth year the Federation was founded would never be revealed, thus allowing for Trek to always theoretically be "our" future.

That's, ironically, something I appreciated about ANDROMEDA. Their years were C.Y. (insert number here)... C.Y. being 'Commonweath Year'. Later, the show took place during A.F.C., for 'After the Fall of the Commonwealth'.

That always kept the series in the future, but completely in the dark as to how far in the future.
 
Or have things take place very far in the future like in Dune... thousands of years...
That's probably when Star Trek should take place. I'm guessing by 2063 we will be nowhere close to any kind of warp drive. I guess I'll find out in 40 years if I'm hopefully still around by then.
 
It was Warp 7.
No, Kirk ordered warp 9 in "The Enterprise Incident" to escape the Romulans, and Sulu acknowledged holding at that speed.

There were other episodes when the Enterprise had been altered by alien technology and she went faster, such as in "By Any Other Name" when she went warp 11 and "That Which Survives" when she exceeded warp 14. Noteworthy among these instances is in "The Changeling," when Scott claimed that it was impossible for the ship to attain warp 10 (I'd say, presumably on her own), but she kept going even faster past warp 11, all under the alterations by Nomad.

There was also "Is There in Truth No Beauty?", when the ship exceeded warp 9.5 under the control of a madman.

Not in TAS, they once reach a speed of warp 35 or something like that.
Karla Five's ship was originally going at warp 36, and it dragged the Enterprise to a speed past warp 22.
 
That's probably when Star Trek should take place. I'm guessing by 2063 we will be nowhere close to any kind of warp drive. I guess I'll find out in 40 years if I'm hopefully still around by then.

I am guessing I won't be, or I'll be very old.
 
The warp scale was redone in TNG. In TOS warp speeds went to at least warp 14.1 (fastest ship went) or 15 (fastest weapons travelled). On VOY we saw infinite speed at warp 10 and were told that ships were half as fast in Kirk’s era.

One (fan?) theory is that the Excelsior’s “Great Experiment” in STIII “transwarp” worked and was incorporated into the rest of the fleet, doubling speeds. …works for me.
 
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