Superman

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  1. Tosk

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    Which is presumably why they directly addressed it in dialogue.
     
  2. Sci

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    Was that in the pilot? Missed it if it was.
     
  3. Tosk

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    Yeah, Lana says something like "You look exactly the same as you did in high school [...] He doesn't age!" and Clark gives her the "Good genes, I guess."
     
  4. Guy Gardener

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    Supergirl season 1 episode one.

    24 years before seaon 1 Krypton blows up.

    13 year old Kara doesn't age for 24 years.

    Kara is 26 in season one so she's been on earth for 13 years and Kal-El has been on Earth for 37, so he's 43 in season 6 of Supergirl.

    Although how can Kal-El be 37, when the very first line is "24 years ago my planet was in serious peril"

    Maybe the star drive sends them back in time a little proportionate to the duration of the trip, so that travel time is close to zero years rather than thousands of years, if Krypton is half a Galaxy away?
     
  5. Tosk

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    It's like that odd line in Superman: The Movie where Jor-El says that he will have been dead for "many thousands of your years" by the time Kal becomes an adult. Just don't worry too hard about it. ;)
     
  6. Skipper

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    Well, in the comics exactly when Krypton exploded varied according to this or that continuity.
     
  7. Guy Gardener

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    Well you'd think that that was relativity.

    Time slowing down as the ship approaches light speed.

    How did the Kryptonite meteorite match speeds with the ship?

    Carried along in it's wake?

    Sigh.
     
  8. Tosk

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    Yeah, but how does Jor-El quote Einstein if Krypton exploded while Earth was still in the Iron Age?
     
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  9. Guy Gardener

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    World's first time Traveler.

    Not bad for a dog.
     
  10. dupersuper

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    They also had a line about it in his first episode of Supergirl.
     
  11. TREK_GOD_1

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    Rational analysis--
     
  12. dupersuper

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    Sure: it was depressing way before 2020...
     
  13. Oddish

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    Best Superman I ever saw was "The Death of Superman". Tragedy, heroism, and noble self-sacrifice. Comics don't normally make me cry, but that one did.

    Then, of course, they reveal it was an attention grab and bring him back. :mad:
     
  14. dupersuper

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    I don't think bringing him back was ever in doubt. I'm also fine with the "attention grab", as Superman deserves more attention. Too many were taking him for granted.
     
  15. Noname Given

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    It's obvious she meant 24 Kryptonian years... So who knows how that translates into Earth years.:shrug::whistle:;)
     
  16. The Realist

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    So, ran across this:



    Not sure if serious? In any case, my incredulous laughter did not treat it as such.
     
  17. The Realist

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    Really nice forthcoming Superman: Red and Blue cover:

    [​IMG]

    I love how Clark is reaching a hand out, as if inviting you to join them in the sky.

    Also like the cameo appearance by Lana Lang Superwoman's fist.
     
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  18. Admiral Archer

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    So I had a recent idea: What if Max Fleischer's Superman Cartoons were used at the beginning of the DC Animated Universe?

    So imagine this scenario, if you will: The year is 1992. Tim Burton's "Batman Returns" is newly released, and a new show called "Batman: The Animated Series" is being produced by Warner Bros. Animation Studios. Inspired by the works of Superman cartoonist Max Fleischer in the 1940's, animator Bruce Timm designs the most iconic version of Batman the world has ever seen. With this in mind, Warner Bros. decides to purchase and re-release the old Max Fleischer cartoons as part of a new way to promote the stylish new Batman show. Newly re-branded as "Superman: The Animated Series", the old cartoons air the summer of 1992 on Fox Kids, and are run before each new episode of "Batman" airs beginning that September. Both shows are a resounding hit, and for the first time since the early '80s, Superman seems to be back as a household name. Of course, after a while Warner Bros. eventually decides it is time to create new and fresh adventures of Superman, set in the same continuity as the old 1940's cartoons, alongside the animated Batman in a new updated style of animation, and thus what we now call "Superman: The Animated Series" is born in 1996, only in this case the new episodes are referred to as "The New Superman Adventures", much the same as what happened with Batman and his fourth animated season. The rest, as they say, is history.

    Of course this didn't really happen. But what if it had? What if Bruce Timm's Superman was intended to be the same Superman as the one voiced by Bud Collyer in the 1940's? I made this intro as a proof of concept; the Warner Bros. re-release of Max Fleischer's Superman Cartoon that never was...

    NOTE: I used John Williams' iconic theme music from "Superman: The Movie" in this intro, as I tried my best to emulate the exact style of the intro to "Batman: The Animated Series", which in turn used Danny Elfman's theme music to the 1989 Batman film. The idea was that Warner Bros. would want to win kids over with a familiar theme tune for both shows, thus the newer theme for Superman.

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ASJMjB6LmS5EenQuTsFMhn4Ez7ObKtq8/view?usp=sharing
     
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  19. TREK_GOD_1

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    Interesting, Admiral Archer, but I would have preferred a 1992-production updated version of the Sammy Timberg cartoon theme, which would have fit the tone of the Elfman theme used for B:TAS.
     
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  20. Admiral Archer

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    Oh trust me, I adore the original theme from the 1940's Superman. I guess I got it in my head that the powers that be would have decided on using the Williams theme from 1978, because of cultural familiarity at the time. Y'know, corporate bureaucracy and such. LOL
     
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