What do you think of the Terminator movies?

[Gaith]

John Connor trying to prevent Judgment Day over a period of years would be absurd, as being in the public (and thus photographic/digital/Cloud) eye would be writing his own death certificate should any new terminators appear looking for him.

Either John believes Judgment Day is definitely, 100% prevented, and thus his work in that respect is done, or he spends his whole life off the grid/hiding. Anything else, including the abominable deleted ending where he's a US Senator, would be nonsensical.

 

[Swedish Borg]

I liked the John Connor of T2 more than the other ones. Too bad his life took a bad turn and he couldn't reprise the role.

 

[Boris Skrbic]

Sarah and John may come to believe their work is done in one respect (years pass, they don’t remain in hiding, nothing happens), but why should that mean they’d rest on their laurels? Suppose that Skynet reemerges, Judgment Day happens and someone else becomes resistance leader or time travel is never invented? They don’t know for sure.

I see it as a continuum where Sarah and John remain paranoid for a while, then realize nothing is coming for them… apparently. Maybe not ever, so eventually they risk greater involvement in all the possible ways something like Skynet could be developed, with a lot of dead ends but eventually, a few movies down the line, something does start to coalesce.

 

[Swedish Borg]

Sarah and John may come to believe their work is done in one respect (years pass, they don’t remain in hiding, nothing happens), but why should that mean they’d rest on their laurels? Suppose that Skynet reemerges, Judgment Day happens and someone else becomes resistance leader or time travel is never invented? They don’t know for sure.

I see it as a continuum where Sarah and John remain paranoid for a while, then realize nothing is coming for them… apparently. Maybe not ever, so eventually they risk greater involvement in all the possible ways something like Skynet could be developed, with a lot of dead ends but eventually, a few movies down the line, something does start to coalesce.

Did you watch "Dark fate" because that's partly the idea behind it?

 

[Boris Skrbic]

I watched everything except for Battle Across Time. As noted above, Dark Fate merely renames and updates the usual framework: Judgment Day happens, robots emerge and eventually go back in time to…

 

[Gaith]

eventually, a few movies down the line, something does start to coalesce.

Didn't we just spend at least three Terminator sequels learning to not wait for hypothetical sequels before getting to the good stuff, whatever form that might take?

 

[Noname Given]

Didn't we just spend at least three Terminator sequels learning to not wait for hypothetical sequels before getting to the good stuff, whatever form that might take?

Yep - "Dark Fate" was SUPPOSED to the the 'sequel all Terminator fans were waiting for'...something good like T2 was...

 

[Swedish Borg]

I watched everything except for Battle Across Time. As noted above, Dark Fate merely renames and updates the usual framework: Judgment Day happens, robots emerge and eventually go back in time to…

"Battle Across Time" is not a movie.

 

[Markonian]

Salvation was great. The first four movies build on each other. We get the attempts to prevent Judgement Day, then experience it. Next, the logical step was to show the future war becoming the present. Salvation expanded the franchise beyond the formula "Terminator travels to the past to cause mischief". In a self-ironic way, it included a man from the past being turned into a proto-Terminator.

I wanted to see the war play out as a two-parter, and then a brave new world where the victorious Humans and the surviving Machines have to learn to live together.

 

[JD]

The first two movies are absolutely classics, with 2 being just a little bit better for me.
I saw 3 in the theaters and don't really remember anything about it other than that I thought it was OK.
I liked Salvation quite a bit, although I wish they had stuck with something a bit closer to what we saw in the first two movies' version of the future war.
Never saw Genisys.
I really liked Dark Fate, with my one issue being that I don't quite see the point in changing the evil A.I. from Skynet to Legion, since they seemed pretty much the same.

 

[Gingerbread Demon]

Was it ever mentioned, but I think Legion was a collection of AIs all rolled into one.

 

[dupersuper]

That's very interesting, as with Alien, I thought most fans enjoyed the first two and it was the later efforts that they lost interest with.

I'd say most (including me) do, but most ain't all.

 

[Gingerbread Demon]

As far as Alien goes I stopped at the very first one. That's it no more.

 

[Turtletrekker]

While I greatly enjoyed the second Alien movie, it regrettably flipped the script on the concept in a way, at least to me. The first Alien movie was a full-blown horror movie with science fiction trappings. The series after the sequel then became science fiction movies with horror trappings. Less about the scares and more about the booms.

 

[Boris Skrbic]

Didn't we just spend at least three Terminator sequels learning to not wait for hypothetical sequels before getting to the good stuff, whatever form that might take?

The good stuff is not necessarily an even more improved robot or every robot at once.

Yep - "Dark Fate" was SUPPOSED to the the 'sequel all Terminator fans were waiting for'...something good like T2 was...

T2 is good because it moves the story forward, developing the character of Sarah, developing the character of the original Terminator and introducing a new Terminator by making innovative use of CGI in addition to practical effects. I didn’t want T3 to be anything like T2, so I’m still thinking of ways it could go without deciding that the future is set after all and that it can only be postponed.

"Battle Across Time" is not a movie.

I had to reference its filmed segments so I could say “I watched everything except…” The Sarah Connor Chronicles is not a movie either.

 

[Gingerbread Demon]

Anything else, including the abominable deleted ending where he's a US Senator, would be nonsensical.

What's this ending? Did they actually film this?


The future is not set it's whatever the writers wanted it to be

In real world terms they saw money could be made so that is why we got the 3rd movie and then the 4th, 5th, and 6th..

If you want to be super choosy you could see everything ends after T2 and nothing else matters.

 

[Smellmet]

Here's the thing though. I know everyone expects the same future from the first movie, but honestly with all the time-traveling going on, it's not entirely out of the realm of possibility that 1), it was only one possible future of many, 2) that it was that very specific future the first Arnold came from, 3) that the timeline has been irrevocably harmed due to all the meddling that's been going on in some of these movies. Add up all that and I would find it hard to believe it could be the same future. All the changes and the revisiting have made the that particular future moot, IMHO, and I wouldn't expect it now. I would expect the timeline's technological development to have changed as well, especially given that Judgement Day has constantly shifted as well. The Future isn't a constant and to expect that everything would lead to that very future would just lead to disappointment.

Afterall, we still don't have flying cars do we?

It's just my subjective opinion on how the film looked really, I just didn't get the feeling that it was a post nuclear war landscape, it felt more like there had been a conventional war. I was expecting to see the remains of flattened cities, stuff like that. I dunno, it just wasn't what I was expecting.

 

[Turtletrekker]

What's this ending? Did they actually film this?

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Linda Hamilton aged much better than the makeup would suggest.

 

[Swedish Borg]

Linda Hamilton aged much better than the makeup would suggest.

I wonder why they changed their mind about this ending.