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Lower Decks renewed for season 3
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I agree.
I'm so glad to see Lower Decks will continue for a third season! I loved the first season - Boimler is how I'd cope in Starfleet, I love the sassiness of Mariner, and there were so many clever little touches and nods to past Trek. Season Two intrigues me a great deal.
I doubt it. I have a hard time seeing what's so offensive about that harmless image, tbh. I mean, it's almost exactly a depiction of what Boimler said on the show. Imagining it were Uhura and T'Pol instead of Kirk and Trip wouldn't change my mind about that. If we're talking full frontal nudity, though, that would get you in trouble here, of course. I'm afraid I don't make society's rules, but I certainly have to abide by them in my role as a moderator here.
Either way, this doesn't need to be discussed further in this thread. And as a future reference, let's not comment on other poster's harmless jokes with vomiting emoticons or by telling them they have too much time on their hands. If you find a post offensive or inappropriate, hit “report” on the post and let a moderator handle it. Thank you.
Since I've got the season 1 Blu-ray, I've watched it twice. Honestly, I just can't get enough of this show. I think of the new shows, it's the most re-watchable.
When it was first announced, I, like I'm sure all of us, was skeptical on how an adult, animated Star Trek comedy was going to work. Skip ahead to now and this is the Star Trek show I'm most enthusiastic about. It hits all the right notes, it's funny, but, overall, it tells good Star Trek stories. I REALLY hope it runs for a long time.
When it was first announced, I, like I'm sure all of us, was skeptical on how an adult, animated Star Trek comedy was going to work. Skip ahead to now and this is the Star Trek show I'm most enthusiastic about. It hits all the right notes, it's funny, but, overall, it tells good Star Trek stories. I REALLY hope it runs for a long time.
^^this
The writing in season 1 allows so much. The references aren't excessive, the humor adds a dimension of its own on top of that, and it's bringing in neat stuff like second contact and follow-ups. Plus some twists and turns that feel genuinely fresh.
I love it when a show largely finds itself so early on. TBBT was another, and its second and third seasons were the best - they started with the right formula and tightened it...
I had seen very little of Rick&Morty, but the show has more of a Futurama vibe and only for the right reasons with the style and off-the-wall stuff, while feeling tangible -- something I can't really describe because it's so intangible. There does have a slight R&M style, but the writers and others who all put this together have made magic.
Well, it's definitely a cartoon's cartoon not something that tries to be realistic. The characters are larger than life and most of the stuff would seem outrageous in a people movie...
In a franchise where there is a giant rabbit reproduced from someone's imagination there's not a lot that seems too outrageous.
Yes, they say that these are robots manufactured below, from their imagination but the rabbit appears almost immediately. That's some fast manufacturing!!!!
Couldn't the same be said for the crew of TNG (or the rest)? Not directly; the universe they're in seems larger than life and arguably not realistic - especially with the space jellyfish from "Farpoint" and space whale that looks mildly rude from "Galaxy's Child" and so on, and these fictional people largely act not-quite-the-same-as-us -- yet we do seem oddly relatable to them at times. In both live action and LD, there's plenty that's larger than life and plenty that's outrageous too. LD being a parody uses more contemporary colloquialisms... maybe what's common in all of these shows is that they get us to believe their universe, rather than the other way around. So clearly there's something else that's relatable at some level or else sci-fi would be even more niche and/or nerderrific and/or patronizing...
Wow, did I digress. I'll admit the space jellyfish, dimorphic as the blu-ray conclusively proved, were a bit naff... it takes a lot to really sell a biological being that can travel in space and fast enough to traverse the galaxy at anything approaching a reasonable-for-it speed... audiences are suspending disbelief in amongst it all as well...
Yes, there's a lot in the franchise, in general, that's impossible to believe if you take only one instant to think about it. I can list ten off the top of my head right now:
- Data doesn't know the word "snoop", that's just idiotic considering that he knows dozens of synonyms of it!!!
- Picard had his first command a field commission a small ship, that he then lost, he even was court-martialed for it, and his second assignment is the most advanced ship of Starfleet!!! How is that possible? First, he was a valedictorian so unless he was really bad at his job he would have been captain much earlier, second you don't get to captain the most advanced ship of the fleet unless you've had something like half a dozen of assignments before. Why would you put your best ship in the hands of a quasi-rookie and especially someone who at past sixty is only at his second assignment? Either way, you look at it. That doesn't make any sense.
- Picard hired Riker because he disobeyed orders!!! First of all, why wasn't Riker court-martialled for it? I mean all the bullshit about duty being first to the Captain's security is just that bullshit. You can't keep your command if you disobey orders. Can you imagine a Captain telling his second in command? "Hey, I asked you to beam me down to that planet and you refused! I am so glad I hired you!" See? that doesn't work!
And I am only at the first episode of the series!!! I could go on and on but I realize now that it would take me more time than I was willing to devote to this task so I hope that you get the picture.
Considering how rarely snoop is spoken in the Star Trek franchise (Farpoint might be the only time) that's not so odd.
You're simplifying the matter way too much. Picard spent over twenty years commanding the Stargazer, and in that time he became one of the more famous living Starfleet Captains. According to Geordi, the Stargazer's missions were required reading when he was at the Academy, and despite there not being any official contact between the Federation and the Romulans at this time, Picard obviously caught the Romulans' eye enough they made it a priority to get his DNA and create a clone of him. And there is nine years between the loss of the Stargazer and taking command of the Enterprise that are undocumented, meaning there are plenty of things he could have potentially done there to further make the case he'd be a suitable Captain for the new Flagship.
Again, you're simplifying things. It isn't so much that Riker disobeyed orders that caught Picard's eye as it is he was willing to stand up for what he believed in without regard to how it could reflect on his career. Some leaders in the real world prefer to have a second in command who will assert themselves and stand for what they believe is right regardless the consequences rather than a compliant Yes Man who will go along with everything asked of them so long as it gets them their goal of further advancement. Indeed, it was for similar reasons that Obama chose Biden to be his Vice President.
ON CAMERA!!, the whole series lasts 120 hours tops, a lifetime is much longer than that. Most likely Data has heard the word "snoop", dozens, if not hundreds of times, like anyone who's spoken English long enough.
Yeah, just like I said. He was captain of a bucket of bolts for twenty years then he basically took a sabbatical (in a manner of speaking ) of NINE years (during which nothing worth mentioning happened). Then out of nowhere, he was given the captaincy of the most advanced ship in the fleet. What's wrong with this picture?
The point is Riker disobeyed an order from his Captain, at the very least it's a stain on his record, and most likely he would have been court-martialed for that, even if acquitted that's a bigger stain. You don't get to move up in rank by disobeying orders. I did a short stint in the army during which I moved up in rank (a little) then I decided I wanted to do something else. Anyway, I know something about discipline and what it means to follow orders, IT'S FUNDAMENTAL!!
Those twenty years spent commanding that "bucket of bolts" made him one of the most famous Starfleet officers of the current era. For that reason alone he'd be in line to command the Flagship, since a position like that is very much chosen for political reasons as it is anything else. Add into that we don't know what went on during those nine years, and it's not so hard to figure out why he was selected.
Riker didn't really disobey the order, he overruled the Captain on the grounds that it wasn't safe to beam down to the planet at that time, which is an XO's right since the XO is responsible for the safety of the ship and crew, including the Captain. That's why he wasn't court-martialed, and Picard apparently wanted such an officer for his XO rather than a compliant Yes Man who would have allowed his Captain to beam down just so the Captain would give him a favorable opinion
Well, at this point, there's nothing left but to agree to disagree.
That we know of.
Jean-Luc Picard knew Natasha Yar for "months", according to Legacy. Yar died in 2364. Per Legacy, Picard's ship responded to a distress call in a Carnelian minefield, as had Yar's ship, and he requested she be transferred to the Enterprise after that rescue mission. Per All Good Things..., Yar was already on the Enterprise when Picard took command. Ergo, Picard was in command of a starship months before Yar's death that was not the Enterprise. It's quite possible he commanded this ship for the full nine years.
Some circumstantial background evidence from Star Trek: Picard suggests that this mystery ship from the Carnelian mission may, in fact, be the USS Reliant (which Picard was also assigned to in the 2320s, per Measure of a Man).
In "All Good Things.." it seems that Tasha and Picard had met for the first time when he was on his way to come aboard the Enterprise.
but this contradicts when Picard states he personally selected her after seeing her operate in a minefield.
It does. Picard does not seem to recognize her (or, rather, claims that she seems familiar, due to memories of his future experiences seeping in). This is a direct continuity error with Legacy.
While I assume that All Good Things is 99% illusion forced unto Picard by Q, the events of Anti-Time Past Picard should reflect history at least at that early point where Yar and Picard "meet". It's conceivable that Yar never met Picard, with him simply learning of her rescue mission while on his ship and making the recommendation to her Captain sight unseen based on her commendations and reported bravery.
Picard not recognizing Yar could in fact be his irumodic syndrome seeping in, effecting his memory of events across the timelines even in the early jumps. He was still adjusting when he said she looked familiar.
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