Some Kind/Type/Form/Sort Of...

[Farscape One]

My wife and I are continuing our watch (rewatch for me) of VOYAGER.

We have started a game of trying to spot an episode that does NOT contain the title subject. Every single episode until "DAY OF HONOR" has.

We have now seen a second one. "YEAR OF HELL, PART II" is absent one.

This thread is going to chronicle this journey...

 

[Oddish]

Well, 257 days is a year on Venus... maybe for some other Federation worlds as well.

EDIT: You left out "variety"!

 

[Farscape One]

Found another! "MORTAL COIL" does not contain the title subject.

That's 3 this season!

 

[Farscape One]

And another... "UNFORGETTABLE". That makes 4 this season, which is more than the previous three seasons combined.

(Though the first one this season was already more than the previous seasons combined...)

 

[Farscape One]

We now have number 5: "ONE".

Interesting that two of the five are Jeri Taylor written episodes.

 

[Farscape One]

And now the 6th: "EXTREME RISK".

 

[Oddish]

There was lots of extreme risk in that episode.

 

[Farscape One]

True. I think the holodeck safeties were off more times in that episode than all of TNG and VOYAGER put together...

 

[Oddish]

One wonders why they even bothered putting g safeties on the holodeck, given that they never work. A large red ENTER AT YOUR OWN RISK sign would make more sense.

 

[saladdays]

One wonders why they even bothered putting g safeties on the holodeck, given that they never work. A large red ENTER AT YOUR OWN RISK sign would make more sense.

But the amount of times that holodecks get used off-screen where there are no issues with the safeties probably is numerous. Remember, we only typically see the episodes where something unusual is going on, which in these episodes includes the safeties not working correctly.

That said, yes, writers probably used that trope more than they should have. I for sure would take safety precautions if I was using the holodeck just in case something happened.

 

[Oddish]

There should be a very simple failsafe where if the safeties go off, the hologrid shuts down. Period.

 

[saladdays]

Perhaps, and that is why I mentioned writers probably went overboard with holodeck issues in their stories. But my main point was that the holodeck likely worked without issue a vast majority of the time off-screen (just like how the ships other systems probably work correctly a vast majority of the time off-screen).

 

[Swedish Borg]

In "A Fistful Of Datas", even though the holodeck program is completely screwed, Deanna assumes that it will end when Worf resolves the crisis. That's idiotic, once a program is bugged there's no way to know how it will react, it may stop abruptly for no reason or it may enter an infinite loop and never end no matter what you do.

That's what you get when people who have no idea how a program works write stories!!

 

[Farscape One]

Next one, "COUNTERPOINT". No such dialogue here.

 

[Weyoun 251]

Next one, "COUNTERPOINT". No such dialogue here.

Does the alien guy not reference the "counterpoint" of the music? Been a while since I watched it but I'm sure it was mentioned

 

[Swedish Borg]

Does the alien guy not reference the "counterpoint" of the music? Been a while since I watched it but I'm sure it was mentioned

Yes, but he didn't say "some kind of" counterpoint, did he?

 

[Oddish]

I totally don't get the rules of this topic...

 

[Swedish Borg]

I totally don't get the rules of this topic...

I believe it's finding how many episodes there are where the expressions "some kind/type/form/sort of" are not used.

 

[Oddish]

Would words like variety, variant, breed, ilk, or genre count?

 

[Swedish Borg]

Would words like variety, variant, breed, ilk, or genre count?

They could, but they'd most likely be much less used than the other ones.