Yeah, I couldn't watch Columbo anymore after Mrs. Columbo. Ruined it.
Least favorite type of episode
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I think she was Mrs. Columbo from an alternate reality though.
Imagine how pissed Picard would have been if something like Fair Haven happened on TNG. All the senior officers goofing off on the holodeck at the same time and running it so long it drains the ships power and effects other systems.
Yes, they made the mirror universe as just one alternate universe among an infinity (as in that episode where Worf keeps jumping from one alternate universe to another until they get thousands of Enterprises in one universe) But isn't it funny that in an infinity of possible universes they keep stumbling upon one that is so unlikely!!!
So, you know the names and career tracks of all the family members of all your coworkers? Would you consider it a life-breaking retcon if you met one you didn't know about already?
I swear, as long as I live, I will never understand this mindset.
TOS exists in its entirety (TV and Movies) as a complete story unto itself.
What comes later is not "shitting" on anything, nor should it make any difference to one's enjoyment of the first series.
I'm not a fan of episodes where our heroes travel back in time to prevent some event that might change history forever.
I can think of one example where that doesn't bother me, TNG and 'All Good Things...' because that is about their own timeline that has already been on the show.
I can think of one example where that doesn't bother me, TNG and 'All Good Things...' because that is about their own timeline that has already been on the show.
I don't think it "shits on" a previous series to have a new character show up as the long-lost and never-before-heard-of relative of a character from said series. And a character could have relatives we've never heard of, that's true.
Nonetheless, I still don't like it when that happens. I see it as a storytelling crutch. To me, it comes off as if the writers/producers/whatever are afraid that the new character isn't engaging enough in their own right, so they have to be "propped up" by a popular predecessor. Why should I care about this crazy Vulcan who wants to find God? Oh, but wait, he's Spock's brother -- surely you have to care about Spock's brother! Why should I care about this character from a new series, who gets into major trouble in the first hour after I meet her? Oh, but she's Spock's foster sister!
It's lazy. It's a crutch. And if anything, it sells the new characters short. The Final Frontier isn't a great movie, but Sybok is a decent character. And Michael Burnham is interesting in ways that don't have anything to do with her relationship with Spock. (Some of those are connected to her Vulcan upbringing, true -- but any Vulcan family could supply that.)
Nonetheless, I still don't like it when that happens. I see it as a storytelling crutch. To me, it comes off as if the writers/producers/whatever are afraid that the new character isn't engaging enough in their own right, so they have to be "propped up" by a popular predecessor. Why should I care about this crazy Vulcan who wants to find God? Oh, but wait, he's Spock's brother -- surely you have to care about Spock's brother! Why should I care about this character from a new series, who gets into major trouble in the first hour after I meet her? Oh, but she's Spock's foster sister!
It's lazy. It's a crutch. And if anything, it sells the new characters short. The Final Frontier isn't a great movie, but Sybok is a decent character. And Michael Burnham is interesting in ways that don't have anything to do with her relationship with Spock. (Some of those are connected to her Vulcan upbringing, true -- but any Vulcan family could supply that.)
It's funny how you have two episodes one next to another that are on the opposite side of the enjoyment scale. "Errand Of Mercy" which IMO is a masterpiece and "The Alternative Factor" about which the less said the better...
Plus TOS is not even internally consistent about that. First Spock says that "an ancestor" of his (or words to that effect) was human, then something different that seems to imply that his parents are dead and then unexpectedly his parents show up. And let's not talk about Kirk's vanishing brother...
No, let's. That's another example of tossing in a heretofore-unknown relative simply to punch up the pathos. If anything, it's worse, because neither Sam nor Aurelan (nor even Peter, really) are actual characters in "Operation: Annihilate!" They're simply plot devices.
EDIT: Hell, Sam doesn't even get his own actor. He's Bill Shatner with a moustache.
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Hands down, anything involving the Borg, the Dominion, Section 31, the Tal Shiar, the Obsidian Order, or the Xindi War.
What ever happened to "To explore strange new worlds; to seek out new life and new civilizations; to boldly go where none have gone before"?
But Sam was already established. And his appearance in OA was a relatively late change: Cf. the Blish adaptation, derived from a much earlier (and arguably more plausible) draft of the script.
What ever happened to "To explore strange new worlds; to seek out new life and new civilizations; to boldly go where none have gone before"?
But Sam was already established. And his appearance in OA was a relatively late change: Cf. the Blish adaptation, derived from a much earlier (and arguably more plausible) draft of the script.
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Except that sometimes it happens. Like when Spock's "Captain Kirk, I shall consider it" (and all that it implies) got tossed under the runabout by DS9. Kind of sucks the punch right out of the scene. Or The Voyage Home's "Let's see what she's got" becomes STV. It's the Alien3 syndrome and it sucks when they do it.
I still want to slap the screenwriter for "Operation: Annihilate" for not paying attention to the line in "What Are Little Girls Made Of?"
"Only you call him Sam." Grr.
The Alternative Factor Aka bullshit upon bullshit. read this:
Antimatter annihilates matter but ONLY if it's the exact same object in matter that touches its identical duplicate in antimatter like in the episode a guy made of matter touches the same guy in antimatter. And when that happens you don't simply have a big boom. Noooo! The ENTIRE UNIVERSE will collapse!!! For example matter Kirk goes to the antimatter universe and nothing happens to him!!! Yeah!!!
Antimatter annihilates matter but ONLY if it's the exact same object in matter that touches its identical duplicate in antimatter like in the episode a guy made of matter touches the same guy in antimatter. And when that happens you don't simply have a big boom. Noooo! The ENTIRE UNIVERSE will collapse!!! For example matter Kirk goes to the antimatter universe and nothing happens to him!!! Yeah!!!
But you can apparently live forever in an interdimensional corridor...
Kirk's brother was established in an earlier episode. But that earlier episode said that Sam had three sons. But only Sam, his wife Aurelan, and their son Peter were ssen in OA, and after Sam and Aurelan were dead McCoy said that Peter was the only survivor of he family.
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The "Operation Annihilate" screenwriter wasn't paying attention when he watched "What Are Little Girls Made Of?" for research.
Well, at least they remembered the eyelid thing in Enterprise when T'Pol said that she didn't need sunglasses.
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