What are your controversial Star Trek opinions?
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Yeah, at times her voice is really strange, like nothing I've ever heard, like the sound a crow would make if crows could talk.
Some people think Shatner is a better actor than Avery Brooks.
No one can overact like Shatner. That's a fact!!! Ever see those scenes where everyone is affected by a thing ( pain collar, ultrasound... what have you) Shatnerr always seems like he's got a double dose of the thing.
I always thought Beverly and Jean Luc were close in age, almost contemporaries? Like Beverly was forty-something and Picard early fifties maybe?
Not according to their non-canon birthdays, he is 19 years older
Picard 2305
Crusher 2324
As per a screen showing files in the Conundrum episode
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He is. At least, I think that’s implicit with the medicine wheel, disembodied soul, animal spirit guides and- akoochimoya. Sorry. Hay fever.
Blimey. Learn something new every day. I just added Wesley age to ‘likely had sprog’ age for someone busy being a Starfleet Doctor and assumed forties. I suppose I didn’t take into account Stewart was playing older than his actual age for Picard.
Highly evolved humans eh.
Still. It’s no Riker/Lal.
Now that would have been interesting.
There are tons of instances where Data should have known more than he did. He was around humans for about 26 years before we met him in "Encounter at Fairpoint." He should have already had plenty of experience with expressions, colloquialisms, etc... He should at least know the definition of words. There should be over 20 of experience interacting with humans. He didn't live in a box.
Yeah, it's not funny the first time and didn't get funnier. It's just tiring.
Upthread I said we're moving to VOY for our weekly Trek lunch, and I know it has its probs, but I find fewer of the characters bland or annoying. Except Chaoktay. His blandness counts for two characters in my book. But I find Neelix less annoying than Data.Didn't know that until our S2 rewatch of TNG. Both Data and Troi I wish never to open their mouths. Ever. Just shh.
Upthread I said we're moving to VOY for our weekly Trek lunch, and I know it has its probs, but I find fewer of the characters bland or annoying. Except Chaoktay. His blandness counts for two characters in my book. But I find Neelix less annoying than Data.Didn't know that until our S2 rewatch of TNG. Both Data and Troi I wish never to open their mouths. Ever. Just shh.
That's the feeling that I got, especially when I watched the DS9 doc.
yeah, I was kinda hoping the doc would give us a little more info on what happened there but alas...
I don't think these docs are truthful. Some of the actors pretend that they care about the show as if they were fans themselves but for some of them nothing could be further from the truth. They just say whatever the director tells them to say whether they mean it or not.
What's that got to do with anything?
As far as I am concerned Data has zero credibility. The 'can't do contractions" thing is just stupid. I mean seriously, what kind of limitation is that? Plus why does he have yellow skin? I mean it really strains credibility that Soong wasn't able to give him a more realistic skin. And as you said his constant need to be explained trivial colloquialisms when he must have heard them hundreds of times... And his total inability to repeat them without replacing the words with unlikely synonyms... All of this is just stupid. It doesn't make me think of an android, it makes me think of a badly written character.
It kind of smooths out when you realise Soong could do those things, but deliberately didn’t. Partially this is explained in Datalore (Data is deliberately ‘flawed’) but mostly later when we meet his mother. Data and his brothers are basically artisanal projects. Like someone hand binding and stitching leather into notebooks, when they could just buy a neat one off the shelf, or use a computer they already have.
In that sense, even the reveal in Picard that Soong had an actual flesh and blood son, isn’t much of a surprise.
No one can overact like Shatner. That's a fact!!! Ever see those scenes where everyone is affected by a thing ( pain collar, ultrasound... what have you) Shatnerr always seems like he's got a double dose of the thing.
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