Moore's Galactica, what exactly was number 6?
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We honestly should be thankful we got the ending we did.
IIRC, in the finale BRD/DVD commentary, RDM mentioned how much he admired the Sopranos ending (yeah, that one) and considered doing the same kind of thing for NuBSG, but thought better of it because he didn’t want to receive the death threats that David Chase did after it aired. I think that’s about how it went, for the most part.
For all its faults, at least they didn’t do that to us.
IIRC, in the finale BRD/DVD commentary, RDM mentioned how much he admired the Sopranos ending (yeah, that one) and considered doing the same kind of thing for NuBSG, but thought better of it because he didn’t want to receive the death threats that David Chase did after it aired. I think that’s about how it went, for the most part.
For all its faults, at least they didn’t do that to us.
This doesn’t surprise me. Just like with Chase and The Sopranos, it took courage to end a show like nuBSG with god playing a significant role. And like The Sopranos’ ending, I view the BSG ending as a “shocking” twist, something that too many shows lack.
The Sopranos was a show that raised the “mob show” to high art and was true to itself to the end. While so many of the show’s fans wanted nothing more than the show to end either with Tony dying in a hail of bullets, or arrested, or fleeing to Mexico or something, the show ended in the most artistic and non-cliche way possible. I loved it, after I got over the shock.
Same with BSG. The show stayed true to itself to the end, and like The Sopranos, a sizable number of the fandom were triggered because at the end they wanted the show to drop one of it’s defining concepts in favor of what, a final epic space battle between Galactica and...god?
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I took the Sopranos ending to be a statement of the unpredictability of mobster life. But it might have just been wanting to both kill Tony in the ending while still leaving the movie option open. Also why they left Silvio in a coma, so if the movie never happened he never woke up but if it did, he could be slid right in.
This comment demonstrates that you have absolutely no clue how television stories are written.
In my mind, the final scene of the Sopranos is the final moment before some or all of them are killed. End the show with us seeing the family happy.
Ending BSG like that would have been just too bleak. The ending that we do have is still bleak in the sense that our cast supposedly gets to live out their lives and maybe a couple of generations before being assimilated and overrun, and their legacy forgotten by the indigenous terrans.
There are very few shows that manage to come up with really satisfying endings, most of them manage to fumble it somehow. All Good Things and What You Leave Behind are probably two of the best. I thought both Steins;Gate and The Mentalist both had really good endings too.
Just for the record to post, I love/d BSG and Daybreak is probably my favourite episode. And I'm not religious at all but love the ending of how they got to Earth. Sure there are some bits that don't make much sense, but all the character moments in that last 3-parter make up for that a billion times. If people wanna watch those final scenes with Tyrol, Tigh, Lee, Baltar, Galactica herself, Roslin, and Adama and then moan about not liking "angels" then whatever, go for it. I just pity your focusing on negatives over positives 
"I laid out the cabin today. It's gonna have an easterly view. You should see the light that we get here. When the sun comes from behind the mountains, it's almost heavenly. It reminds me of you."
With that score it's just perfect. To me that's the ending. After that is just the epilogue.
"I laid out the cabin today. It's gonna have an easterly view. You should see the light that we get here. When the sun comes from behind the mountains, it's almost heavenly. It reminds me of you."
With that score it's just perfect. To me that's the ending. After that is just the epilogue.
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The second bit in this video pretty much encapsulates Ronald D. Moore and NuBSG:
I actually remember reading an interview with Ron Moore back in 2007, maybe a month or so after The Sopranos ended where while discussing the fact that BSG was going into its final season, the interviewer makes a comment "we can expect a better ending then The Sopranos got, right?" Ron Moore then responded "I actually liked the ending of The Sopranos..."
Because of that I spent the next two years with really low expectations for BSG's finale. Which is probably why when it did air, I was actually completely okay with how it turned out.
Everyone hold the phone. We've got an expert among us.
think that struck me was how people had reacted like that sort of ending never happened before. Well except for Christmas 1981 on the BBC.
Who ever said I do know how they're written?
I'm saying that why bother with an ongoing storyline if it only has a beginning and no idea how it might proceed? Might work well with soap operas.
which still holds the record for the most watched finale and most watched tv epsiode and I can't think of anything that really has the potential to break that.
You meant this to be a sarcastic jab, but since I've worked directly alongside someone who was a professional television writer and learned from them, I actually do have some expertise and knowledge in terms of how a television writing room works and the way that television writing works.
Most television writing and storytelling is not as meticulously planned as you seem to think it is or ought to have been in the case of something like LOST or BSG.
Series like Babylon 5 or Westworld that have a defined and predetermined endgame laid out are the exception, not the rule.
I think that a program like, for example, TNG with stand alone episodes doesn't have to be planned very far into the future but in the case of continuing storyline and nubsg there at least should be somekind of a plan. By what has been said here, they just threw something out there and checked out what might work. It became a mess, a mess I don't care much about these days. And that makes nubsg feel like wasted potential, I mean early on it was good.
Like I said before, I just found it a little annoying that one of the main driving forces for the end of the show was kept so vague.
Lost explained most of the big things like what the Island was, what the smoke monster was, and why everyone kept seeing dead people.
And showrunner changes can have a really big effect since they are the ones who make the final decisions. Just look how much Discovery changed as it went through all of it's showrunner changes.
Lost explained most of the big things like what the Island was, what the smoke monster was, and why everyone kept seeing dead people.
Is the new prequel movie going to be set entirely in the past?
The writers' rooms for shows seem to change quite a bit as the shows go on, so even if the original team had a clear plan, as new the writers come in they might bring in new ideas that change those plans.
And showrunner changes can have a really big effect since they are the ones who make the final decisions. Just look how much Discovery changed as it went through all of it's showrunner changes.
Yeah, the prequel movie is set in the past, but before James Gandolfini died they were talking about a sequel movie.
And that's not how television writing, in general, works.
Very few serialized television series are meticulously planned.
How planned is planned? When they were breaking the first season, they already knew about the Cylon’s Pinocchio syndrome leading to baby fever, that they’d land on prehistoric Earth, that the gods were somehow real, the cycle of time, that there could be secret Cylons amongst the main cast... what strikes you as being particularly last-minute about the finale?
Honestly, I don't remember. It's been a while....
But the point I was (maybe foolishly?) making was that (if I got it right) the writers themselves admitted that nubsg was not that well thought out and they were making stuff up as they went on. That doesn't seem to be very brilliant way of making a continuing storyline. Suddenly you might find yourself in a situation that can't be resolved that quickly and there might be only few episodes left in the series.
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