If that's the case the serum itself isn't a failure, The failure is either in humanity itself, OR in how the government went about selecting the super soldiers serum candidates.
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If that's the case the serum itself isn't a failure, The failure is either in humanity itself, OR in how the government went about selecting the super soldiers serum candidates.
That's a good point--ultimately, people (their true natures known and hidden from the public) are where the failure in the Super Soldier serum rests. Erskine just happened to find the one man who was moral to his core and did not have dangerous or anti-social behavior just under the surface. The rest were and all compromised to some degree, in some way--even Bucky.
What I like about this series is that Sam stands as the example of a man who could be another legitimate Captain America sans the serum (though he's not perfect, either); its all about his character. He does not need the serum to do what he was called to, which was touched on when he quickly and flatly told Zemo he would not take the serum, if it had been offered.
Steve Rogers was insane.
He was a suicide case.
And he believed in ideals that were not real, were worth dying for.
His madness was in the best interest of the country, and the world, but a sane person would not follow him into fire with out a machine gun.
I still love that line from Civil War...
"Captain America, do you have a myspace page? How can you connect with the America people, lead them into war, if you don't have a Myspace page or watch crappy reality TV?"
He was a suicide case.
And he believed in ideals that were not real, were worth dying for.
His madness was in the best interest of the country, and the world, but a sane person would not follow him into fire with out a machine gun.
I still love that line from Civil War...
"Captain America, do you have a myspace page? How can you connect with the America people, lead them into war, if you don't have a Myspace page or watch crappy reality TV?"
Which is the whole point of the Steve Rogers character and something they have shown so well in his origin movie - to Steve it didn't matter if he was a 100 pound weakling or a Supersoldier - right is right and wrong is wrong. He is a hardcore black and white character, cutting straight to the core of an issue and examining it according to his own ideals and morals.
He understands that people can fail or be weak at times, that some situations call for hard measures and he is willing to do it but he has clear lines in the sand over which he never went and he made sure no one else in his vicinity did too.
As to the episode - loved it.
It was good that they slowed down after the initial big fight ( at one point i thought they ripped off Walker's hand!) and went back to what the show ultimately is about - Sam's struggle to follow in Steve's footsteps and he finally made the decision to take on the mantle. It was nice to see the core of Sam's character again, what makes him tick and where he comes from - that part of a Superhero person often is neglected, especially if it's so "mundane" and regular but this is exactly why Sam is perfect to be the next Captain America, because his family and community is never too far away to be of help and be a safe haven and support system.
It was clear that Bucky and Sam couldn't be antagonistic forever ( and antagonistic is even a too harsh word) but they also got over themselves and truly bonded even if they still keep up the charade ( which is still funny).
And i still love the physics, realism and logic defying shield - for all of Marvel's efforts to keep the MCU as grounded as possible they just went "Fuck it!" when it comes to Cap's shield
I also love the completely overblown combat moves by Sam - why is he sommersaulting like crazy when he's about to catch the shield? It's as comicbook as it can get and i love that the MCU lets loose occasionally and just goes for rule of cool, after all that's what superhero comics and moves are all about.
So next week the big finale in NYC and i don't think there will be a superdecisive battle, that Sam will defeat the Flag Smashers and that's it - they may have morphed into real terrorists now consorting with actual criminals like Batroc but they stand for an idea and the dissatisfaction of billions and you can't do that away by bashing in a few skulls.
Also one guess what was in that Wakandan suitcase
Has there been a picture released with Sam in his new Captain America uniform ( because that's what the suitcase holds - another subtle hint that Bucky knows Sam better than he thinks).Questions:
- Who was the woman played by Julia Louis Dreyfuss? Hydra?
- Walker forging his own shield - which name will he go by?
I couldn't disagree more, and it's not because of the boat. The entire series has been building to the moment when Sam chooses to voluntarily pick up the shield and this episode delivered that in spades. That conversation where he tells Bucky how he can move forward with his past is the first clear, decisive and incontrovertible proof that Sam has become just as incredible a leader as Steve was and that makes it pretty much the single biggest high point of the series so far.
Plus, this episode actually brought everything together again with surprising effectiveness after, even just last week, it really seemed like the show might be in danger of spinning out and never fully addressing all the different things it had been musing on. And it did so while fully refocusing it all thematically on Sam's experience as a black man being handed Captain America's shield. The show is really living up to its promise of actually dealing with that type of experience rather than just throwing in a few lines and barely mentioned concepts and calling that 'dealing with the black experience'.
This is easily the best episode so far, for my part.
I actually don't see that as all that overdone. It's obviously a good idea to practice catching the shield even while both you and it are moving, potentially in ways that don't allow you to keep your eye on it 100% of the time. Maybe he didn't have to be so gymnastic to do that, but gymnastics are a fairly simple and easy way to do it without having to set up tons of equipment.
I assumed she was connected to the Power Broker. Or is the Power Broker, but then the show is once again still pushing the idea that Sharon is the PB, so...
Obviously the name that truly belongs to him at this point is US Agent. He even says outright to the senator 'You made me' and 'I did everything you told me to do', which of course is exactly why he could never be Captain America. Steve was never just the Govt.'s tool. But characterization wise he does seem fixated on the idea that he IS the true Captain America, so would he really call himself anything else?
Some other noteworthy things I wanted to mention:
A) Bucky explicitly knew Steve was retiring to the past before it happened.
and B) The GRC is actively trying to force people back to where they used to live before the snap and that is a big part of where the whole refugee crisis is coming from. And I can see how that could happen when old governments suddenly snap back into existence and find there's not enough food for everyone and also there's tons of people living in their borders who wouldn't have been allowed to live there under the 'normal' rules. So political cowardice/expediency leads to the obvious solution of making as many people as possible someone else's problem in order to make your food shortage seem less bad.
The Falcon and the Winter Soldier
Episode 5: "Truth"
Sam/Falcon: Sam asking Walker for the shield was not--obviously--a move to "claim" it (at the moment, but his counselor mode kicking in, knowing that one, that weapon had to be confiscated, and two, its legacy had to be protected / disassociated with so heinous a crime ASAP. Again, he shows just how level-headed he is that he can try to talk Walker down, even in the heat of raw anger / battle.
Amazingly tense moment as Sam used the thrust of his jet pack to break Walker's arm, finally wrestling the shield away from him.
The Falcon wings' ultimate failure in the fight opens another door in Sam's mind--whether its worth it (for his life in the grand scheme of things), or as some are already wondering, if his telling Torres to keep the wings while walking off with the shield was not just protecting the shield's legacy, but the moment Bucky had been waiting for.
Isaiah Bradley delivers the statement of the episode: "Those stars and stripes don't mean nothin' good to me."
Sam: "I need to understand."
Bradley: "You understand. Every black man does, whether you want to deny it or--"
Sam: "Don't do that 'bitter old man' thing with me."
Bradley: "If you ain't bitter, you're blind!"
Sam: "I don't get it, okay? What went wrong?"
Bradley: "I used to be like you...until I opened my eyes. Until I saw men--and the Red Tails...the famous 332 fight for this country, only to come home to find crosses burned on their lawn.."
Sam: "I'm from the South I get that.But you were a Super Soldier like Steve, you could have been he next--"
Bradley: "The next?? What?!? Huh? Blonde hair, blue eyes, stats and stripes? The entire world has been chasing that Great White Hope since he first got dosed with that serum!"
Sam: "Steve did not put you in jail!"
Bradley's story was heart-wrenching, as it--like his previous appearance--was taken from elements of real history; since the African diaspora sent my ancestors to nearly every corner of the world, they were not only subjected to the unforgivable evil of slavery (and the tools it is partnered with, like incessant rape, deliberate removal of any ties and awareness of the civilizations / achievements of their own people, creating endless laws to keep people--during and after slavery--in psychological bondage, etc.), but were used like lab rats for experimentation. Whether it was on men for Grand Guignol-esque, sideshow butchery to "uncover" the "secret" of their allegedly "different" virility and strength, to James Marion Sims' use of enslaved black women for horrifying experiments which would have him crowned the "Father of Modern Gynecology", to Tuskegee and and on and on, this show's Bradley sub-plot is the fictionalized continuation of this "tradition," and necessary ice mainlined into the veins of the MC/TVU.
Sam's reply to Sarah--"What would be the point of all the pain and sacrifice if I wasn't willing to stand up and keep fighting?" was his call to action / realization I had been waiting for. He will always carry the burden of being a black man in the U.S....and the world, but he can still believe in and fight for the kind of right which had never been tied to--or defined by any dominant society / political body.
Bucky/Winter Soldier: Note the look on Bucky's face as he drops the shield next to Sam, his expression all but saying Sam not only made the wrong decision in not at the start of this chapter, but he has a choice to make right now,,,
In a single stroke, Bucky--in simply scaring Zemo with his unloaded gun (with a slight smile)--disproves he was that programmed killer Zemo was counting on as he slowly crossed that ideological moat Zemo had always tried to fill between Bucky, Sam and Steve's legacy. Further, his loyalty to Ayo and the Wakandans was not as fractured as the previous episode implied.
Sadly, we now know why Bucky was so upset with Sam retiring the shield--he felt it was the only "family" he had left. In all of the years, since his escaping the Winter Soldier program, and post-Endgame, he's never truly bonded with anyone--apparently the Wakandans, too--at least not in any familial sense. He never had the chance to rebuild a new life in the present day like Steve.
He finally comes to realize his misunderstanding of Sam's feelings about the shield, how that's tied to men like Bradley and what it all means for Sam not only as a hero, but as a black man having to walk that ever-unstable tightrope between black American identity and...American identity.
Zemo: He gives another hint about where Sam might go by saying he was "as stubborn as Steve Rogers before him." but none of that matters, as he's off to the Raft prison...but I doubt anyone will be shocked if he escapes...or is released.
Sharon Carter: With every new scene, she becomes more of a mystery...unless the initial fan assumptions were correct all along.
John Walker / Cap 2.0: Walker, as expected, tried to rationalize murder (and his from a ma who appeared to have serious regrets about acts committed as a soldier). Indeed, his self-entitlement issues were intensified by the serum, as he skipped over murder, and spouts off--
"..we could have been a team."
"..I AM Captain America!" -- something he repeats during his hearing. While he yells out that the government "made" him, and that he always did what "they" asked of him, his entitlement issues cam roaring back with his obsession with being that which he cannot be officially, and certainly not where the soul is concerned.
..and repeatedly, he tries to kill the duo (Sam more than Bucky) in that manner he used against the Flag Smasher. I considered that the act of his resentment over what he sees in Sam--a threat to his unearned mantle. Others might argue that is the effect of the serum, but as noted time and again, the serum only builds on what is already in the person.
The episode tried to look at his empathetic corner of his mind through the scenes with Lamar's family, but as each moment of the scene passed, one could see his wheels turning about his recent act(s), and who he believes he was meant to be.
Valentina Allegra de Fontaine....another character sending up "this is not going to go well" flares...
The Flag-Smashers / Dovich / Karli Morgenthau: Karli is so far gone, that with one episode left, I cannot imagine her doing anything other than going out in some suicidal attack / nonsensical statement. Gone is her consideration of Sam as a person she could (at least) talk to, as she's going to help Batroc attempt to kill him. So, it seems the showdown is set for the streets of New York. That should be very, very interesting.
NOTES:
In such a powerful, edgy episode, there were a few funny moments, mainly Bucky flirting with Sarah, and Sam being so uncomfortable with that.
Note Jackman's reprise of his "End of the Line" track from The Winter Soldier's score as Sam looks at the shield before the title reveal...
We leave off with Sam and Bucky really becoming friends (such joy at that scene from everyone watching at my house), and Sam becoming very proficient with the shield. As the episode closes, opening the Wakandan case; I'm assuming Ayo provided (as that favor to Bucky) an amazing upgrade to the Falcon wing/suit concept.
GRADE: A.
Episode 5: "Truth"
Sam/Falcon: Sam asking Walker for the shield was not--obviously--a move to "claim" it (at the moment, but his counselor mode kicking in, knowing that one, that weapon had to be confiscated, and two, its legacy had to be protected / disassociated with so heinous a crime ASAP. Again, he shows just how level-headed he is that he can try to talk Walker down, even in the heat of raw anger / battle.
Amazingly tense moment as Sam used the thrust of his jet pack to break Walker's arm, finally wrestling the shield away from him.
The Falcon wings' ultimate failure in the fight opens another door in Sam's mind--whether its worth it (for his life in the grand scheme of things), or as some are already wondering, if his telling Torres to keep the wings while walking off with the shield was not just protecting the shield's legacy, but the moment Bucky had been waiting for.
Isaiah Bradley delivers the statement of the episode: "Those stars and stripes don't mean nothin' good to me."
Sam: "I need to understand."
Bradley: "You understand. Every black man does, whether you want to deny it or--"
Sam: "Don't do that 'bitter old man' thing with me."
Bradley: "If you ain't bitter, you're blind!"
Sam: "I don't get it, okay? What went wrong?"
Bradley: "I used to be like you...until I opened my eyes. Until I saw men--and the Red Tails...the famous 332 fight for this country, only to come home to find crosses burned on their lawn.."
Sam: "I'm from the South I get that.But you were a Super Soldier like Steve, you could have been he next--"
Bradley: "The next?? What?!? Huh? Blonde hair, blue eyes, stats and stripes? The entire world has been chasing that Great White Hope since he first got dosed with that serum!"
Sam: "Steve did not put you in jail!"
Bradley's story was heart-wrenching, as it--like his previous appearance--was taken from elements of real history; since the African diaspora sent my ancestors to nearly every corner of the world, they were not only subjected to the unforgivable evil of slavery (and the tools it is partnered with, like incessant rape, deliberate removal of any ties and awareness of the civilizations / achievements of their own people, creating endless laws to keep people--during and after slavery--in psychological bondage, etc.), but were used like lab rats for experimentation. Whether it was on men for Grand Guignol-esque, sideshow butchery to "uncover" the "secret" of their allegedly "different" virility and strength, to James Marion Sims' use of enslaved black women for horrifying experiments which would have him crowned the "Father of Modern Gynecology", to Tuskegee and and on and on, this show's Bradley sub-plot is the fictionalized continuation of this "tradition," and necessary ice mainlined into the veins of the MC/TVU.
Sam's reply to Sarah--"What would be the point of all the pain and sacrifice if I wasn't willing to stand up and keep fighting?" was his call to action / realization I had been waiting for. He will always carry the burden of being a black man in the U.S....and the world, but he can still believe in and fight for the kind of right which had never been tied to--or defined by any dominant society / political body.
Bucky/Winter Soldier: Note the look on Bucky's face as he drops the shield next to Sam, his expression all but saying Sam not only made the wrong decision in not at the start of this chapter, but he has a choice to make right now,,,
In a single stroke, Bucky--in simply scaring Zemo with his unloaded gun (with a slight smile)--disproves he was that programmed killer Zemo was counting on as he slowly crossed that ideological moat Zemo had always tried to fill between Bucky, Sam and Steve's legacy. Further, his loyalty to Ayo and the Wakandans was not as fractured as the previous episode implied.
Sadly, we now know why Bucky was so upset with Sam retiring the shield--he felt it was the only "family" he had left. In all of the years, since his escaping the Winter Soldier program, and post-Endgame, he's never truly bonded with anyone--apparently the Wakandans, too--at least not in any familial sense. He never had the chance to rebuild a new life in the present day like Steve.
He finally comes to realize his misunderstanding of Sam's feelings about the shield, how that's tied to men like Bradley and what it all means for Sam not only as a hero, but as a black man having to walk that ever-unstable tightrope between black American identity and...American identity.
Zemo: He gives another hint about where Sam might go by saying he was "as stubborn as Steve Rogers before him." but none of that matters, as he's off to the Raft prison...but I doubt anyone will be shocked if he escapes...or is released.
Sharon Carter: With every new scene, she becomes more of a mystery...unless the initial fan assumptions were correct all along.
John Walker / Cap 2.0: Walker, as expected, tried to rationalize murder (and his from a ma who appeared to have serious regrets about acts committed as a soldier). Indeed, his self-entitlement issues were intensified by the serum, as he skipped over murder, and spouts off--
"..we could have been a team."
"..I AM Captain America!" -- something he repeats during his hearing. While he yells out that the government "made" him, and that he always did what "they" asked of him, his entitlement issues cam roaring back with his obsession with being that which he cannot be officially, and certainly not where the soul is concerned.
..and repeatedly, he tries to kill the duo (Sam more than Bucky) in that manner he used against the Flag Smasher. I considered that the act of his resentment over what he sees in Sam--a threat to his unearned mantle. Others might argue that is the effect of the serum, but as noted time and again, the serum only builds on what is already in the person.
The episode tried to look at his empathetic corner of his mind through the scenes with Lamar's family, but as each moment of the scene passed, one could see his wheels turning about his recent act(s), and who he believes he was meant to be.
Valentina Allegra de Fontaine....another character sending up "this is not going to go well" flares...
The Flag-Smashers / Dovich / Karli Morgenthau: Karli is so far gone, that with one episode left, I cannot imagine her doing anything other than going out in some suicidal attack / nonsensical statement. Gone is her consideration of Sam as a person she could (at least) talk to, as she's going to help Batroc attempt to kill him. So, it seems the showdown is set for the streets of New York. That should be very, very interesting.
NOTES:
In such a powerful, edgy episode, there were a few funny moments, mainly Bucky flirting with Sarah, and Sam being so uncomfortable with that.
Note Jackman's reprise of his "End of the Line" track from The Winter Soldier's score as Sam looks at the shield before the title reveal...
We leave off with Sam and Bucky really becoming friends (such joy at that scene from everyone watching at my house), and Sam becoming very proficient with the shield. As the episode closes, opening the Wakandan case; I'm assuming Ayo provided (as that favor to Bucky) an amazing upgrade to the Falcon wing/suit concept.
GRADE: A.
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The Contessa was a character we were supposed to have already seen in the Black Widow movie if it hadn't been delayed.
The Contessa was a character we were supposed to have already seen in the Black Widow movie if it hadn't been delayed.
In the comics, she is a deputy director of S.H.I.E.L.D. and NIck Fury's Girlfriend.
Wow, I definitely did not expect Juila Louis-Dreyfus of all people to show up in this show (or anywhere in the MCU). I'm guessing she was the rumored surprise appearance people were talking about for the last few days? I don't know anything about the character she's playing so that had no impact on me, but it's very cool to see her appear nonetheless.
I suspect some people aren't going to like this quiet episode but I greatly appreciated the show took the time for its characters (particularly Sam) to step back and reflect what's happening and how to proceed next.
I enjoyed watching Sam returning home and helping Sarah save the boat with the help of the local community by calling in old favors. But most importantly, this episode showed the whys and hows of Sam finally deciding to take up the shield and carry out Steve's legacy. I particularly liked how the episode also showed Sam seriously training with the shield and not just the casual practicing with Bucky as we mostly saw in the trailers. Oh, and look at that! We all thought that was going to be the closing moments of the series. Glad we were wrong on that count.
I also really enjoyed seeing Sam push Bucky into not just doing amends for his past horrors as the Winter Soldier, but also to do the work of helping those victims' families get closure that they richly deserve. I expect the closing scenes of next week's episode will show Bucky doing that with Yori, but I hope that moment isn't regulated to a montage. The show needs to show us that difficult conversation.
I figured we hadn't seen the last of Elijah so I'm glad we got a couple of scenes with him to flesh out his background and history as a super soldier and what that meant for a Black person, not just in the 50s but also in today's world (both real and fictional). I know that it doesn't quite reflect his comics origins, particularly how he didn't become an urban legend among the Black people, but I also see the power in demonstrating that even a Black super soldier is erased from history. For doing the same thing Steve Rogers did for his compatriots. Guilty of the "sin" of patriotism while Black.
I didn't expect Zemo's story to conclude so quietly with his surrender to the Dora Milaje. At this point, I don't think we'll see him in the final episode but I wouldn't be surprise if he popped up again in one of the upcoming Wakanda shows.
John Walker is a lying, unstable son of a bitch. I was disgusted when he lied to Lemar's family about the man he killed. And now he's building his own shield. Question is how effective will it be considering I don't expect it to be made of Vibranium he found lying around.
Power Broker watch: Sharon seemingly helped the release of Georges Batroc. I think that weighs heavily in favor that she's indeed the Power Broker.
I suspect some people aren't going to like this quiet episode but I greatly appreciated the show took the time for its characters (particularly Sam) to step back and reflect what's happening and how to proceed next.
I enjoyed watching Sam returning home and helping Sarah save the boat with the help of the local community by calling in old favors. But most importantly, this episode showed the whys and hows of Sam finally deciding to take up the shield and carry out Steve's legacy. I particularly liked how the episode also showed Sam seriously training with the shield and not just the casual practicing with Bucky as we mostly saw in the trailers. Oh, and look at that! We all thought that was going to be the closing moments of the series. Glad we were wrong on that count.
I also really enjoyed seeing Sam push Bucky into not just doing amends for his past horrors as the Winter Soldier, but also to do the work of helping those victims' families get closure that they richly deserve. I expect the closing scenes of next week's episode will show Bucky doing that with Yori, but I hope that moment isn't regulated to a montage. The show needs to show us that difficult conversation.
I figured we hadn't seen the last of Elijah so I'm glad we got a couple of scenes with him to flesh out his background and history as a super soldier and what that meant for a Black person, not just in the 50s but also in today's world (both real and fictional). I know that it doesn't quite reflect his comics origins, particularly how he didn't become an urban legend among the Black people, but I also see the power in demonstrating that even a Black super soldier is erased from history. For doing the same thing Steve Rogers did for his compatriots. Guilty of the "sin" of patriotism while Black.
I didn't expect Zemo's story to conclude so quietly with his surrender to the Dora Milaje. At this point, I don't think we'll see him in the final episode but I wouldn't be surprise if he popped up again in one of the upcoming Wakanda shows.
John Walker is a lying, unstable son of a bitch. I was disgusted when he lied to Lemar's family about the man he killed. And now he's building his own shield. Question is how effective will it be considering I don't expect it to be made of Vibranium he found lying around.
Power Broker watch: Sharon seemingly helped the release of Georges Batroc. I think that weighs heavily in favor that she's indeed the Power Broker.
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Yes! I really enjoyed that reveal. I'll admit I was one of the people who didn't see that clearly the first time around in Endgame and I was confused why Sam went to talk to Steve first. In subsequent viewings, all of the small hints are there ("I'm going to miss you, buddy," Bucky's little smile after Steve didn't return, Bucky nodding for Sam to go talk to Steve), but it's nice to have the show acknowledge outright that Steven and Bucky planned this for Sam. It also shows another reason why Bucky was so mad at Sam for giving the shield away.
Yeah, I like that we got some clarification on that point but I do wish it had been brought up sooner than the end of the penultimate episode of the season.
Well damn. That sucks. Also it kind of sucks that Vanity Fair (and whoever else) just outright spoiled that Louis-Dreyfus is going to be in Black Widow, too. I get why and I'm not mad at you for posting this information openly (however, I coded it just in case others might be upset by such a spoiler), but it's still a shame to have that surprise kept quiet for more than a year and then it's out there just a few months before film is probably finally released.
I was scared that Bucky's favor to the Wakandans would be them giving him money to help Sam, and it would've all come down to "The White Guy helped out the Black guy with charity". I'm SO glad that Sam was able to resolve it all on his own by simply remembering the community he and his family were part of.
I don't think it was really about him trying to glorify himself, he lied to make Lamar's family feel better.
Though really, I thought the show would really go there in the corruption and show Walker being commended for what he did and maybe get another medal. Having him be punished (even if it's rather light) was a welcome surprise.
I must admit I didn't think of that possibility but I'm also very glad that didn't happen.
I think you're giving him too much credit. I don't think he was trying to glorify himself, but I do think he was hiding himself from the truth because he didn't want to admit he was wrong. Either way, he wasn't doing it to make the family feel better. Besides, his wife had to gently urge to go see Lemar's family.
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Well, now we know what Selina Meyers did after her run in office.
The Contessa Valentina Allegra DeFontaine is Nick Fury's ex. As for whether she is Shield or Hydra? Yes? Who knows? Both? Neither? Depends on who's writing this month?
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valentina_Allegra_de_Fontaine
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I must have missed that dialogue in the episode. I always assumed from Endgame that Bucky knew Steve so well he didn't have to say it.
A complaint I always hear people make about serialized shows where the season is basically one extended length movie is that everything is so focused on the story and action and there is no room for smaller character developing episodes that tend to pop up frequently with episodic shows. Well, I'd say this episode proves all them wrong, we get a solid character based episode as the penultimate episode of a six episode season of what is largely an action thriller show and it was just as engaging and enjoyable as the action packed episodes have been.
And, damn, Julia Louis-Dreyfus was really impressive in the relatively small amount of screen time she had. Even though I recognized her right away, by the time the scene was done I was very surprised this is someone I largely associate with comedic roles. In just a few short moments I completely forgot this is the same woman I've thought of for the better part of a decade as Elaine from Seinfeld. A really impressive and well done job.
And, damn, Julia Louis-Dreyfus was really impressive in the relatively small amount of screen time she had. Even though I recognized her right away, by the time the scene was done I was very surprised this is someone I largely associate with comedic roles. In just a few short moments I completely forgot this is the same woman I've thought of for the better part of a decade as Elaine from Seinfeld. A really impressive and well done job.
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