Spoilers The Falcon and Winter Soldier discussion

[Guy Gardener]

Look at Karli.

She's an out of touch psycho.

Unbalanced.

Maybe the Super Soldier Serum is bad?

So John is now crazy.

So it's not that Zemo is right, it's that drugs are bad.

Ps.

Zemo is right.

 

[Nerys Myk]

I think the theory is, if you're "bad" the serum amplifies that. If you're "good" it does the same.

 

[Nightowl1701]

In addition to the serum, Steve was given a bath in 'vita-rays.' Banner tried to replicate that with gamma rays, and we all know what happened there. Everybody else so far, it's been serum only. That said, none of the other Flag-Smashers seemed all that crazy, so we're back to "it amplifies what's already there."

Oh, and just for wild speculation bingo, put me down for a pre-gamma Dr. Leonard Samson. Maybe with a cryptic line about working with somebody with a bad reaction to super soldier treatments. Simply because it would be fun if somebody at Marvel Studios or Disney would remember Blonsky at some point.

We already had pre-gamma Doc Samson in Norton's Hulk movie. (Betty's boyfriend, remember?) This is somebody new, and it's almost certainly got to be our mysterious Power Broker.

 

[Anwar]

I think the theory is, if you're "bad" the serum amplifies that. If you're "good" it does the same.

Not a theory, it's outright stated by Dr Erskine in First Avengers that the serum affects you mentally as well.

 

[Turtletrekker]

Oh, and just for wild speculation bingo...

Henry Peter Gyrich.

 

[Turtletrekker]

Not a theory, it's outright stated by Dr Erskine in First Avengers that the serum affects you mentally as well.

And reiterated with several lines of dialogue in the pilot of Agents of SHIELD.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Man, Schmitt must have a quite a piece of work even pre serum.

 

[Xerxes82]

Man, Schmitt must have a quite a piece of work even pre serum.

When even the Nazis aren't evil enough for you, I think that's a given.

We already had pre-gamma Doc Samson in Norton's Hulk movie. (Betty's boyfriend, remember?) This is somebody new, and it's almost certainly got to be our mysterious Power Broker.

I had forgotten that. No bingo for me this week.

 

[Guy Gardener]

I think the theory is, if you're "bad" the serum amplifies that. If you're "good" it does the same.

Sir, we are talking about two different Super Soldier Serums.

The one Steve took may have been good, but this one is bad.

I heard what they were trying to say.

Poetic bullshit.

If it was the same serum, sure that poetic bullshit would hold.

Banner took a super soldier serum too.

Walker went crazy instantly.

More crazy?

I'm thinking it was because their bodies aren't getting jacked.

Suppressing all those muscles unbalances the brain.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Sir, we are talking about two different Super Soldier Serums.

The one Steve took may have been good, but this one is bad.

Didn't Schmitt get the same one as Steve?

 

[Anwar]

I will admit, while it is a little disheartening that there are folks who agree with Walker and what he did (I UNDERSTAND why he did it, that doesn't mean I approve) I can't agree with the folks who say that it was also the Birth of "MCU Homelander".

Really, Walker is nowhere near that level. I wouldn't even call him "Evil" right now.

 

[Turtletrekker]

Didn't Schmitt get the same one as Steve?

"The serum wasn't ready."

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[Guy Gardener]

Didn't Schmitt get the same one as Steve?

Already a Nazi.

It's not like he became more or less Nazi after...

Not Jacked.

Did he take the same formula?

Was Johann originally even more slight than Steve Rogers?

 

[theenglish]

I am hoping for Victor Von Doom.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Already a Nazi.

It's not like he became more or less Nazi after...

As noted he kind of did become Nazi+

 

[Turtletrekker]

"Explore Madripoor!"

https://www.exploremadripoor.com/?f...3LEBDmFDlegR6EloIr5S_Rwf10ZE6A3oiXWrbdLyz8Z-M

In the Hightown Night Club section, the invite code "Sharon Carter" will take you to one of her art auctions.

In the Buccaneer Bay section, the access code "Power Broker" will give you access to the shipping containers at the docks. The only containers that have anything of interest, at least to my knowledge, are 4261, which was Nagels container, and 1273, which brings up Sharon's wanted poster.

 

[Nerys Myk]

I am hoping for Victor Von Doom.

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say Wolverine.

 

[Doom Shepherd]

Banner took a super soldier serum too.

Walker went crazy instantly.

More crazy?

I'm thinking it was because their bodies aren't getting jacked.

Suppressing all those muscles unbalances the brain.

Banner was already crazy, if his MCU backstory is anything like the comics..

 

[Nerys Myk]

Suppressing all those muscles unbalances the brain.

Then Banner should be the most mentally balanced person ever.

 

[Guy Gardener]

As noted he kind of did become Nazi+

I haven't seen First Avenger in 10 years, but shmidt made it seem like Hydra was a science Wing of either the German military or the Nazi Party, when it is actually alien and predates humanity.

Is the Super Soldier Formula Alien?

Any mental defects in the recipients is intended.