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How easy is it actually to reverse engineer a UFO?

How Easy do you think it would be to reverse engineer an alien device/ship?

  • Impossible, get that Air Force sticker ready!

    Votes: 4 19.0%
  • Almost impossible, but will take decades/centurys

    Votes: 6 28.6%
  • Possible if tech level is near to us

    Votes: 8 38.1%
  • Easy as Star Gate has led us to believe

    Votes: 5 23.8%

  • Total voters
    21
Well, we're already assuming a preposterous level of similarity between our behavior and that of putative aliens in order to have this conversation. To assume that they might have evolved similar moral systems is no more unlikely to assume that they're interested in spaceflight. Well, actually, it's less ridiculous.

Well, in order to get here, they have to at the very least be interested in spaceflight. That's a given.
 
Do you really think that each alien sapient species has its own Jesus?
Why would humankind be exceptional? I think Jesus originally was believed to exist in the cosmic realm as a sort of Platonic ideal by a Jewish sect - the influence of Greek culture being highly prevalent - probably the Nazarenes in about 100 BCE. This meme took hold and was later converted by Graeco-Romans into a pseudo-historic story about an Earthly being to make it easier to gather converts to the credo. The secret mysteries about Jesus were only revealed to truly committed devotees but this practice was either abandoned or lost over time.

Jesus from Outer Space? | Bible Interp (arizona.edu)
 
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Why would humankind be exceptional? I think Jesus originally was believed to exist in the cosmic realm as a sort of Platonic ideal by a Jewish sect - probably the Nazarenes in about 100 BCE. This meme took hold and was later converted into a pseudo-historic story about an Earthly being to make it easier to gather converts to the credo. The secret mysteries about Jesus were only revealed to truly committed devotees but this practice was either abandoned or lost over time.

Jesus from Outer Space? | Bible Interp (arizona.edu)

Well, if we discovered that even one alien species has a sort of Jesus, that would definitely give the Christian faith a boost of unprecedented proportions.
 
Well, if we discovered that even one alien species has a sort of Jesus, that would definitely give the Christian faith a boost of unprecedented proportions.
On the contrary, I think it would undermine their feeling of being special and therefore superior. That other intelligent beings might independently invent such an entity is interesting from a xenopsychological point of view - a discipline that does not yet exist.
 
On the contrary, I think it would undermine their feeling of being special and therefore superior. That other intelligent beings might independently invent such an entity is interesting from a xenopsychological point of view - a discipline that does not yet exist.

Yet, I can't help the feeling that most Christians would (eventually) see it as a sign that they're right.
 
Yet, I can't help the feeling that most Christians would (eventually) see it as a sign that they're right.
Possibly, although I suppose there would be interminable debates over doctrinal issues, transubstantiation, the Trinity, and other such matters just so they could look down on their alien brethren for not really being of the true faith. You must be of the true faith so you can be controlled and money extracted from you to keep the priestly hierarchy sleek and fat. How the aliens would respond to Christian missionaries turning up on their planets is another issue. If the aliens are atheists or polytheists, I expect that will also be used an excuse to discriminate against them even if we daren't go to war with them. In other words, the same old crap humanity has already been through for two thousand years. I suspect we haven't seen aliens because they really don't want to have to deal with our issues.
 
Hummm... This started on the subject of reverse engineering a UFO and now we're into theological debates of whether aliens would have their own Jesus...? Gött im himmel...

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Hummm... This started on the subject of reverse engineering a UFO and now we're into theological debates of whether aliens would have their own Jesus...? Gött im himmel...

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There used to be a 24-hour Church of Elvis in Portland, Oregon. You'd think it would be a magnet for UFOs.
 
While inside a leopard II tank I will be totally invulnareble to stone knives.. ;) These aliens do not seem to be the kind who would step outside their spaceships so...

As for the stealth thing, maybe our hypothetical UFO drivers are just teasing.. nah nah nah nah naaaaaaaaaaaaaah!!! Can't catch me!! :biggrin:

Maybe these UFO sightings are alien teenagers, who borrowed dad's spaceship to go on a joyride and decided to mock those primitive humans. Could also be a dare for male alien teenagers to let themselves be intercepted and shot at - those who evade the last are winners ( and sometimes they miscalculate and actually get shot down like in Roswell) :p
 
If we're viewed as dangerous animals living on a wildlife preserve, I imagine we'll get our asses tranquilised and sent back home if we try to leave the reservation. The invention of warp drive being the sole criterion to being accepted as intelligent by the aliens seems insufficient. They might well have social criteria as well.

At least the Pakled only kidnap members of other species to make things that make them go, they don't kill other aliens and steal their stuff or assimilate them into the collective and steal their stuff.
 
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Well, in Trek, Warp is only an invitation for contact, we probably been observing them for awhile anyways, so we know where they are on a moral, religious, etc. scale.
If there antagonistic, or they want to bring the BS to the stars, they'd probably be stopped quite early, till they can get there crap together and are ready to join a space federation. Even just to get out and about they need to be behaved. There are also criteria for joining the Federation, even being a protectorate.
 
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At least the Pakled only kidnap members of other species to make things that make them go, they don't kill other aliens and steal their stuff or assimilate them into the collective and steal their stuff.

The Pakleds are not very believable, are they? Kids in kindergarten are smarter than these guys. I don't see how they managed to invent the wheel, let alone anything else after that.
 
I don't think the hypothetical aliens would risk being shot by "us". They would take all the necessary precautions not to let that happen.
Tgates.


Aliens could shoot at us all they want. Alien craft have air and space superiority over Earth based fighter planes and total superiority over space based combat.

Therefore the U.S. Navy needs to shoot down a UFO or several UFO's to acquire space superiority technology.


Why haven't people been able to take more photos of UFO's seeing as how there are more cameras?

The Arlens have gotten a lot better at avoiding the camera.
 
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The Pakleds are not very believable, are they? Kids in kindergarten are smarter than these guys. I don't see how they managed to invent the wheel, let alone anything else after that.
The Pakleds may have de-evolved. Having advanced to the level of warp flight, they stopped applying themselves and quickly forgot how to maintain their own systems.

For all the comfort level younger people are today with technology, there may be a lack of understanding of the underlying technology and how it actually works. Antidotally, younger workers understand the basic operations of an advanced copier but are challenged with the additional features available.

With newer electronics, repairing them requires specialized equipment which precludes their repair by owners or users. In the mid-90's, I had an issue with a video switcher and the manufacturer just wanted to exchange the circuit board instead of me trying to repair it. Newer switchers are even more complicated using network control and functionality undreamed 25 years ago.
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It's also the high degree of miniaturization and complexity. How much space would all the transistors in a modern cell phone take up if replaced with vacuum tubes?
 
You probably couldn't even build one with vacuum tubes... Totally different technical approach involved.

However, just going for conventional transistors/resistors/capacitors (etc.) - let's just say, it wouldn't be very comfortable to hold...
 
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