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Justice League official "Zack Snyder" cut on HBO Max

Honestly I thought the Ayn Randness/Atlas Shrugitude was way more downplayed here compared to MoS & BvS (which was a major bugbear for me in those movies.) Hell, it actually came close to getting Superman right...not quite, but close.
Anyone who complains about the length of the film has never read Atlas Shrugged.
 
I have and both are way too long.
I read Atlas Shrugged over the course of about two weeks, about 40 years ago.. It was the most poorly written thing I've ever come across, but my roommate was so into it I had to be able to talk him down. The Fountainhead was readable and said the same thing coherently in around one third the word count.

I'm watching ZS:JL over the course of 7 days, a chapter a day. So far it's excellent.

In the eye of the beholder.
 
Maybe if it had been a watchable length, I would have enjoyed it more. I will say that there just might be a halfway decent two and a half hour movie hiding in there somewhere.
I don't agree. They introduce 3 new superhero characters and try to fill in their backstories while continuing the stories of the previous 3 superhero characters and introducing a new villain, a set up for a sequel villain and a sequel/trilogy story. It seems impossible to put all that into a 2 hour, 30 minute movie.
 
I don't agree. They introduce 3 new superhero characters and try to fill in their backstories while continuing the stories of the previous 3 superhero characters and introducing a new villain, a set up for a sequel villain and a sequel/trilogy story. It seems impossible to put all that into a 2 hour, 30 minute movie.
There was so much wasted empty space in that movie. Like all of the women singing when Arthur went to the sea after rejecting Batman's offer. It was pretentious empty air.
 
Indeed.

This makes me realize that my favorite films are all long ones:
The Ten Commandments: 3h 40m
The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring 3h 48m
Star Wars 2h 22m
Dune miniseries: 265 min
True Lies: 2h 24m

Justice League has the potential to be in good company.
I remember watching Gone With the Wind (3h 58m) at the theater during a rerelease. I think it was for extra credit at school or something. It was a slog. Tell her you don't give a damn, already!!!!!
 
Spartacus (197 minutes restored version), Solaris (166 minutes) and Stalker (161 minutes) are yet more examples of films that need to be long to have weight, even including the driving through Tokyo section of Solaris.
 
Spartacus (197 minutes restored version), Solaris (166 minutes) and Stalker (161 minutes) are yet more examples of films that need to be long to have weight, even including the driving through Tokyo section of Solaris.
You say that is if the Snyder Cut is automatically the same quality as those films just because a bunch of inserts made it long. ZSJL is not Spartacus, and no amount of tweaking will ever make it Spartacus, or Solaris, or Stalker.
 
You say that is if the Snyder Cut is automatically the same quality as those films just because a bunch of inserts made it long. ZSJL is not Spartacus, and no amount of tweaking will ever make it Spartacus, or Solaris, or Stalker.
I don't think that was implied at all.
 
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