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That's why the Federation needs an organization like Section 31. To do what needs to be done to keep the Federation alive, however morally repugnant that might be.

Hard disagree. They're just as likely to get the Federation in trouble by screwing up their paranoid attempts at protection, a'la the Illuminati in Marvel comics.

I have no issue with S31 existing or a show existing about it. Honestly, for me, I personally welcome more exploration of most, if not all, Trek concepts, no matter how unpopular.

Threshold: the series!
 
Just because Janeway and Paris turned into salamanders, doesn't mean everyone will. Who knows what a Klingon, or a Talaxian, or a Borg might turn into?
 
Shifting gears, at least on my end.

I like the long time they spent circling around the Enterprise in TMP. It helped us to really get to see and really get to know the Refit Enterprise (and the Enterprise-A by extension). You can get attached to the ship.

The Enterprise-E and the Kelvin Enterprise? Bing, bang, boom. We don't get to see much of them on the outside. And only get to see them in three films each. Inside and out. Six hours of screen-time total for both ships. So the lack of spending much time on them, doesn't give you any attachment, or at least as much attachment.

Completely agreed.

Our hero ships are characters themselves. They are what brings us to the adventures. They are just as, if not more, important than the characters on those ships.

It's precisely why it hurts when we see them destroyed, like the Enterprise or the Defiant.
 
Completely agreed.

Our hero ships are characters themselves. They are what brings us to the adventures. They are just as, if not more, important than the characters on those ships.

It's precisely why it hurts when we see them destroyed, like the Enterprise or the Defiant.

Don't know if they're more important, but they're important. I still tear up when Janeway explains to Tuvok why she's staying with Voyager at the end of "Year of Hell"

Controversial opinion: ships are not characters.

I'll show myself out

Youre in good company; Tuvok didn't understand either.
 
I definitely feel more attached to the refit than others, excepting maybe the original. But, the Kelvin Enterprise still moves me.

...To retch. TOS much beloved, the Refit fairest of them all. The JJprise is an aesthetic and design nightmare. And the rest of the JJverse Starfleet looks like the love child of a Starship junk yard and a De Soto.
 
I got the idea once that if the NX 01 Enterprise ever got up to Warp 10, Porthos would mutate into a six ton carnivorous dinosaur like creature and gobble up all the salamanders on the ship like burritos.
 
Unpopular Opinion: Some say Discovery should've taken place in the 32nd Century to begin with. I disagree and I'll tell you why. If the first new Star Trek series on TV in 12 years premiered with the Federation having fallen, it would've gone over like a lead weight. Don't even try to say it's not true.

Also, if DSC had a crew from the 32nd Century, then life after The Burn would be normal to them. The fact that they're from when the Federation was in its prime (no pun intended) means they have a perspective the rest of what's left of the Federation lacks. It's what makes the Discovery crew different from them.

Technically the season premiered five months ago, not six, so I won't go into any more details, but the common knowledge that the Federation had fallen has been known through trailers and teasers for longer than that.

Point is: I think it was right for DSC to not start off in the Far Future.
 
Honestly, I don't know know about season 1 and 2 being the prime of the Federation. Just in the 24th century, the Federation was a LOT bigger than in Kirk's day. DISCOVERY could have started at any time, really. Say, the 26th century, and build from that. Then make that jump into the 32nd. This would also solve the problem that so many people have with the technology looking more futuristic than what has been established in the previous shows.

Hell, you could have started 5-10 years before PICARD season 1 starts, and you've got plenty of time between the end of NEMESIS and that point to explain the look.

(Having said that, I really do like how they made the Enterprise look in season 2. MUCH better than the JJ version by a country mile.)
 
Unpopular Opinion: Some say Discovery should've taken place in the 32nd Century to begin with. I disagree and I'll tell you why. If the first new Star Trek series on TV in 12 years premiered with the Federation having fallen, it would've gone over like a lead weight. Don't even try to say it's not true.

Also, if DSC had a crew from the 32nd Century, then life after The Burn would be normal to them. The fact that they're from when the Federation was in its prime (no pun intended) means they have a perspective the rest of what's left of the Federation lacks. It's what makes the Discovery crew different from them.

Technically the season premiered five months ago, not six, so I won't go into any more details, but the common knowledge that the Federation had fallen has been known through trailers and teasers for longer than that.

Point is: I think it was right for DSC to not start off in the Far Future.
I think starting it off where they did was just fine. I honestly think the only true bump was the jaunt to the Mirror Universe rather than unpacking the Klingon War. Going in to the future was understandable. I just don't think so far in to the future was needed.
 
As much as I hate it on principle, but I honestly thought that killing the Founders would have been justified. From what we heard the Dominion war was devastating worlds and killing millions. If it could have been ended by killing a bunch of ruthless dictators that saw all other life in the galaxy as worthless....why not?

Though wasn't that a moot point at the end anyway, because the Female Founder threatened to unleash the Jem Hadar on a killing spree if they didn't give her the cure? It's been months since I saw DS9.
The genocide was because the Cardassians switched sides in the war. Shefounder did not know there was a cure until the very end when Odo linked with her, that is what ended the war.
 
The 'Founders' are, in my opinion, the ultimate expression of racism. They not only think (thought? Past tense, now?) of themselves as superior to any other lifeform, they have utter contempt for non-shapeshifting species, and consider them to be no more than animals to be controlled -- or destroyed, if they're inconvenient.
To be fair, their overall atittude towards non-shapeshifters seems to have evolved out of their being feared, hunted, and killed by non-shapeshifters, who were afraid of them (a fairly common theme in science fiction and fantasy). But that doesn't in any way shape or form (pun unintentional) excuse their actions.

I wonder how they would have treated a different shapeshifting species, whether they would be heralded as 'brothers' or as a possible threat. It's not even inconceivable that the Federation had a similar species as one of its members.

Or how they would have responded to a species such as the Q continuum, especially if they were being told the Alpha Quadrant was off limits to them.
 
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