Recall that everything Section 31 does is in the name of preserving the Federation. So, if they saw it in the Federation's best interest for them to return to a more clandestine effort to continue their goal.
What are your controversial Star Trek opinions?
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Hell, nobody seems to remember or mention the Delphic Expanse after it ceases to exist in 2154. And any massive area of the galaxy about 2,000 light-years across surrounded by thermobaric clouds would be pretty memorable to those who saw it before it dissipated. Section 31 and Starfleet Intelligence seem to classify a lot of things based on the track record we've seen so far.
If Ira Steven Behr came back and revived DS9, ala the unofficial Season 8 from What We Left Behind, it would be hated by a lot of Niners because it would still be under Alex Kurtzman. Which would make no sense because, if push ever came to shove, Ira would stand up to Alex Kurtzman the same way he stood up to Rick Berman. And Alex Kurtzman seems a lot more willing to let each series have their own style than Rick Berman ever was.
Honestly, as much as I love DS9, I would not want a continuation, especially not if it's based on that "What We Left Behind" stuff.
Just...I'm not a fan of directly reviving a specific series after so long.
Well, since it did dissipate, it probably just wasn't at the forefront of anyone's mind anymore. How many people talk about the Berlin Wall these days in every day discussion. Probably the same with the Delphic Expanse. Interesting historically, but probably not something people talk about every day.
If not the Expanse itself I can easily see Section 31 and Starfleet Intelligence classifying the bizarre properties that existed inside the Expanse and their origins in the extradimensional Sphere Builders and their technology. In "Home(ENT)," I believe, we see Archer undergoing a briefing on the Xindi mission and the files being buried under some level of classification.
I think that's more of a popular opinion.
Realistically speaking, any large governmental organization is going to have a department like that. It's like your anus... it's gross and you don't like to talk about it, but it serves an essential purpose.
It is the no oversight part that is objectionable.
I like both DS9's and DSC's takes on Section 31.
ENT did jack shit with them. I binged the entire series at the beginning of the Quarantine, so I'm not going off faded memory. A guy hanging out in the docks who occasionally bothers Reed. They were trying to go for Sloan/Bahir Lite. And it wasn't even that. It was a light version of Lite.
I don't really remember Into Darkness that well. It's been eight years since I've seen it. But if Section 31 were that impressionable in the film, they'd have stood out to me and I'd still remember them.
So, no. I'm glad DSC brought back Section 31 and did something with them. By the time they were introduced on DS9, the series was almost over. There wasn't much time to do anything with them over there.
ENT did jack shit with them. I binged the entire series at the beginning of the Quarantine, so I'm not going off faded memory. A guy hanging out in the docks who occasionally bothers Reed. They were trying to go for Sloan/Bahir Lite. And it wasn't even that. It was a light version of Lite.
I don't really remember Into Darkness that well. It's been eight years since I've seen it. But if Section 31 were that impressionable in the film, they'd have stood out to me and I'd still remember them.
So, no. I'm glad DSC brought back Section 31 and did something with them. By the time they were introduced on DS9, the series was almost over. There wasn't much time to do anything with them over there.
Section 31 in that film was pretty much just Marcus building secret weapons to fight off the Klingons.
Relative to S31 fans, my controversial opinion is that S31 works well as a nest of villains to be defeated by the protagonists, but of course it works poorly as something that is a natural fit to the Federation as it's been portrayed in every pre-nuTrek iteration.
Also the way they supposedly rewrote Trips death in the Enterprise novels.
Though I still agree how Discovery used them was stupid, but it's done so I have to explain it to myself somehow. Enter the head canon.
Like attempted genocide...
Kill or be killed. Either Earth is completely destroyed or Qo'noS is completely destroyed. Luckily, Burnham came up with a third option that L'Rell agreed to.
Unless you mean Section 31's attempt to eradicate The Founders on DS9. That situation, I actually have more of an issue with because the situation was less black-and-white. Earth wasn't about to be completely wiped out during the Dominion War.
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I was referring to the attempted genocide of the Founders. I don't recall any Section 31 involvement in Starfleets attempted genocide of the Klingons.
Got it. I corrected myself in the edit. Sorry about that.
As much as I hate it on principle, but I honestly thought that killing the Founders would have been justified. From what we heard the Dominion war was devastating worlds and killing millions. If it could have been ended by killing a bunch of ruthless dictators that saw all other life in the galaxy as worthless....why not?
Though wasn't that a moot point at the end anyway, because the Female Founder threatened to unleash the Jem Hadar on a killing spree if they didn't give her the cure? It's been months since I saw DS9.
But at least the Founder genocide was the "bad guys" plan...
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