I guess I can just agree to disagree, because I feel Riker destroying them was justified because it was created from stolen material from his own body. No one has the right to steal from you, especially your own genetic material.
What are your controversial Star Trek opinions?
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For all the talk that fans want something fresh and new, fans sure don't like it when Trek subverts their expectations. Khan in Into Darkness isn't the main baddie of the movie? Sacrilege. Picard is a weak old man, disillusioned with Starfleet which has turned isolationist following a tragedy close to home? Worst Trek ever.
And then you don't like it when Trek leans too heavily on it's lore, and want new baddies? Have Star Trek Beyond. Oh wait, not enough of you went to see it and the Trek movies died. Thanks a lot.
And then you don't like it when Trek leans too heavily on it's lore, and want new baddies? Have Star Trek Beyond. Oh wait, not enough of you went to see it and the Trek movies died. Thanks a lot.
I was with you in the Hitchensesque first sentence, then you lost me by getting personal with the poster.
She certainly sold it to 17 year old me...
I was not entertained.
Fascinating.
So? I'm sure there are some episodes you find entertaining that I didn't. It's all subjective, of course. But you're right, I should've written 'Threshold entertained me, and still does upon rewatching'.
In the end it comes down to whatever you find acceptable. To me, inconsistencies, huge plot holes or wildly inaccurate representations of scientific concepts, or weird episodes that are far 'out there' don't necessarily hinder my enjoyment. Other things (such as twisting characters beyond recognition in order to fit a one-time story) are deal breakers to me. For this reason, I can't accept Fury, and I wouldn't ever accept a sanctimonious version of Picard that's up to all kinds of corruption, for example- except of course if it were in the Mirror Universe. (Disclaimer: I haven't actually seen anything of Star Trek:Picard yet, so if he is depicted there in that way ....)
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Indeed yes. That is often been my experience.
While I agree to some extend, it sounds to me like you're lumping the fandom into an homogenous mass that seems to have conflicting opinions.
Rather, it's different people within the fandom wanting different things.
Plus, even if a person says they want something fresh and new...that doesn't oblige them to love everything that's different form what has come before. Plus you know the themes in Picard you listed are only "fresh" if you don't watch any other scifi than Trek.
And there's more factors in play...for example yes I want new baddies, but I didn't watch Beyond because I couldn't give a damn about the Abram's movies, even if I tried.
Not my opinion, but my wife's.
Of the TNG movies, GENERATIONS is the best one.
Of the TNG movies, GENERATIONS is the best one.
Also, both Picard and Beyond rely just as much on nostalgia as on innovation so trying to pin their impopularity (and I'm not even really convinced Picard truly is that impopular) on being 'new and different' is thorny at best. How can you possibly separate out the effect of the nostalgia from the effect of some things being changed?
LEAVE HER.
(j/k)
Oh Jessica 6....
<goes for a lie down>
As we're off-subject...As a kid I watched the fantastic Logans Run TV show first (and A Man Named Sloane but that's for another day) and loved it so imagine my shock when I watched the movie a couple of years later. I think I was only ten and instead of REM we had the above BOX and I was, quite frankly, terrified.
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