Okay, then why didn't Riker vaporize the people who were the ones who stole his DNA?
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QUOTE: Okay, then why didn't Riker vaporize the people who were the ones who stole his DNA?
He didn't have to. By destroying the clones, he sentenced them and their culture to extinction.
My controversy: I thought "In the Pale Moonlight" was ridiculous. One episode previously, it's revealed that the Federation has a super secret organization for doing its dirty work (its own Tal Shiar, in other words). Then, Sisko decides he has to do the Federation's dirty work himself.
Good episode... BAD placement.
QUOTE: Okay, then why didn't Riker vaporize the people who were the ones who stole his DNA?
He didn't have to. By destroying the clones, he sentenced them and their culture to extinction.
My controversy: I thought "In the Pale Moonlight" was ridiculous. One episode previously, it's revealed that the Federation has a super secret organization for doing its dirty work (its own Tal Shiar, in other words). Then, Sisko decides he has to do the Federation's dirty work himself.
Good episode... BAD placement.
Because they were not a creation made from his own genetic material.
It's hard to throw a leg over a copy.
It's a fair point, but S31 is shown as operating to its own drumbeat on its own authority in DS9 (retconned about 27 times later in the franchise). There was really no guarantee what they were up to or why...so Sisko acted on his own, seizing the opportunity he knew was there.
The way it all worked out...I can live with it.
The reason that S31 was at it's best during it's appearance during DS9 was it was vague exactly what S31 actually was. Sloan easily could have been lying with every other sentence. S31 could have been operating with the full knowledge of the Federation Council ... or not.
I have to agree. I liked the more 'mysterious' Section 31 we saw in DS9 and even Enterprise. I liked their involvement in STID as well for the most part. They were still more or less mysterious.
But I didn't care for how in Discovery every one seemed to know about them, like they were some branch of Starfleet. It just seemed not to fit their usual MO.
Based on DS9 alone, S31 could literally have just been Sloane and a handful of others doing what rare few projects they could actually manage to get the resources/assistance for. Which was definitely a good thing, imo.
It's a fair point, but S31 is shown as operating to its own drumbeat on its own authority in DS9 (retconned about 27 times later in the franchise). There was really no guarantee what they were up to or why...so Sisko acted on his own, seizing the opportunity he knew was there.
The way it all worked out...I can live with it.
I think that Sisko probably figured that dealing with the situation on his own, as we saw in the episode, was "the lesser of two evils" vs. trying to involve Section 31.
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I would imagine that S31 learned a lot from being more public and leaned far more in to the cell style organization, rather than a full agency.
I think one of the big things would be how much everyone knew. Starfleet Intelligence seemed to have been one way S31 was operating, so some of their missions have had that veiled cover of legitimacy. So, not everyone would know that SI was actually an S31 operative. But, I do think there was a coordinated effort to scrub the record clean, and distance actual Starfleet operations from this organization. So, S31 attempted more power, ended up in a poor spot, and fell back in to more shadow type operations, and possibly more cell like than centralized.
Most definitely, and quiet easy in the era of all digital interconnected computer records. After realizing their mistake of operating as a legitimate branch of Starfleet, they officially disband, delete all the public records on their activities, likely hacking into some places. They swear everyone to secrecy and in a couple of decades are only a footnote as a short lived minor branch of Starfleet Intelligence.
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