Why the hate for Disco?

[F. King Daniel]

Pretty sure everything. I only watched it once in theaters and don't have a desire to watch it agan, but I believe that Khan in this silly timeline was a starfleet section 31 special soldier. You should watch the episode "Space Seed." Of course Khan cared about his crew and his wife was a starfleet officer.

His backstory is unchanged in Into Darkness. In this timeline he was revived by Marcus instead of Kirk (and his people held hostage), and he was used to design weapons for use against the Klingons.

If he cared about his people as much in Wrath of Khan as he did Into Darkness, he wouldn't have let them all die. In that movie, his hatred of Kirk outweighed everything else.

 

[DaystromDropout]

Here you go, this one's racist and bigoted so take a look at this.

Idiots

 

[DaystromDropout]

His backstory is unchanged in Into Darkness. In this timeline he was revived by Marcus instead of Kirk (and his people held hostage), and he was used to design weapons for use against the Klingons.

If he cared about his people as much in Wrath of Khan as he did Into Darkness, he wouldn't have let them all die. In that movie, his hatred of Kirk outweighed everything else.

Yeah, we learned Moby Dick from his obsession. What did we learn from "Into Darkness"?? How did that movie enlighten you? Freaking lame score too

 

[DaystromDropout]

The most popular villain ever in Star Trek?

Yup, no reason to redo him. No one even remembers the guy.

While you are trying to be facetious and clever, this line of thinking is what drives Hollywood's unoriginal creative mindsets. When something was classic, and owned by the actors that portrayed them, performances that last a lifetime; you don't redo them.

 

[F. King Daniel]

Yeah, we learned Moby Dick from his obsession. What did we learn from "Into Darkness"?? How did that movie enlighten you? Freaking lame score too

I learned Moby Dick from Moby Dick
Into Darkness was a condemnation of the US' drone warfare, Trek's most on-the-nose moral message since TOS. Did you miss it?

And the score was awesome. Especially Khan's theme, "London's Calling"

 

[DaystromDropout]

At least they showed the Augments' human side and compassion for their fellow kind and the raw emotion of Khan in protecting the other supermen and women from harm

Uhhh so did the original Khan in the television show when he made his entrance and concluding in the film. Y'all really should watch the television show where he was introduced before jumping to these conclusions.

 

[F. King Daniel]

While you are trying to be facetious and clever, this line of thinking is what drives Hollywood's unoriginal creative mindsets. When something was classic, and owned by the actors that portrayed them, performances that last a lifetime; you don't redo them.

People have been retelling stories and putting new spins on them for centuries. Since before television and movies. Just because you like one version of it and hold it sacred doesn't mean everyone should stop doing it.

 

[DaystromDropout]

Into Darkness was a condemnation of the US' drone warfare

LOL this is a stretch, bub

 

[DaystromDropout]

People have been retelling stories and putting new spins on them for centuries. Since before television and movies. Just because you like one version of it and hold it sacred doesn't mean everyone should stop doing it.

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha hah aha haha

 

[F. King Daniel]

LOL this is a stretch, bub

Perhaps you were too distracted by all the running and explosions to listen to the words?

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha hah aha haha

Quality content.

 

[fireproof78]

While you are trying to be facetious and clever, this line of thinking is what drives Hollywood's unoriginal creative mindsets. When something was classic, and owned by the actors that portrayed them, performances that last a lifetime; you don't redo them.

Star Trek has been trying that for the past couple of films as well. As well as the idea that humanity has been retelling similar stories for a lot longer than Hollywood has been around. The question is in what way and how do people respond to it. A classic doesn't mean one can touch it again. Otherwise, why did TWOK involve so many Moby Dick references?

LOL this is a stretch, bub

Nope. Right there in the dialog, and consistent with what I was hearing on the news at the time.

 

[DaystromDropout]

Perhaps you were too distracted by all the running and explosions to listen to the words?

Quality content.

I was revisiting a classic

 

[Vger23]

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha hah aha haha

You're making a very poor impression with this kind of stuff. This place isn't facebook or reddit. People here typically debate issues pretty thoughtfully, and we don't act immaturely (well....most of the time we don't anyway) when we are confronted with conflicting points of view.

You might want to try a different approach. This is a great place to talk about Star Trek. Don't screw yourself by coming across poorly right out of the gate.

 

[cooleddie74]

Uhhh so did the original Khan in the television show when he made his entrance and concluding in the film. Y'all really should watch the television show where he was introduced before jumping to these conclusions.

Don't talk down to us about this. I have been watching TOS since I was a toddler and that's likely longer than many people on this board have been around. I have a lot of criticisms of STID and stand by them. I'm just throwing the producers a bone for getting something right and making Khan a feeling human like he was in TOS and TWOK.

 

[cooleddie74]

You're not making many friends here.

 

[Lord Garth]

Look, this guy's a dropout. It's in his username. So what do you all expect?

 

[cooleddie74]

At least entertain me.

 

[DaystromDropout]

I'm not here to make friends, I'm hear to defend Rodenberry's vision.

 

[cooleddie74]

Then this thread would be titled: "Making Money and the Casting Couch."

 

[fireproof78]

Which one? The one about making money or the one with unrealistic views about humanity such as human's not mourning?