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Spoilers Ah, the NEW uniforms...!

I only recently realised that the department colours are actually whole semicircles of coloured fabric, with more blue (or purple, originally) stitched over the top to create the 'line'.
 
TBH I could never understand why the producers would forego the instantly recognisable gold/blue/red shirts for the drab blue jumpsuits that proliferated on sci-fi shows like Babylon5;Seaquest and BSG.
 
TBH I could never understand why the producers would forego the instantly recognisable gold/blue/red shirts for the drab blue jumpsuits that proliferated on sci-fi shows like Babylon5;Seaquest and BSG.
a good question for discovery’s producers as well...At least they eventually introduced what will presumably be the SNW ones, which are quite popular already (personally I loved the Star Trek 2009 ones even more...one of the few things I really liked from that mivie).
 
I would imagine that coming up with a new uniform design for a show is difficult, particularly if you’re trying to make it distinctive from what’s come before, while still maintaining a recognizable design lineage. Adding to the complexity, the Disco people needed to come up with many designs for this season, not only for all the main and background 32nd century personnel, but also for all the several Tal hosts that were wearing uniforms that allegedly existed in the intervening time in a way that would make sense. There were also the Picard and LDS uniforms that they needed to build recently as well, that didn’t step on other designs.
 
TBH I could never understand why the producers would forego the instantly recognisable gold/blue/red shirts for the drab blue jumpsuits that proliferated on sci-fi shows like Babylon5;Seaquest and BSG.
In ENT's case they were going for a NASA/ISS feel
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TBH I could never understand why the producers would forego the instantly recognisable gold/blue/red shirts for the drab blue jumpsuits that proliferated on sci-fi shows like Babylon5;Seaquest and BSG.
Simple. They wanted it to be distinct. It flowed nicely from Enterprise to Kelvin to Discovery too.
 
Distinct?
Like from the other shows I mentioned.
If they were so interested in the famous,elusive casual viewer (that they have made so many choices for) they would have used every trick in the book to highlight the fact that this was STAR TREK they had just flipped past.Hell,it took them a couple of years to add that to the name of the goddam show.
Strange choices for hard-eyed tv execs.

Anyway,back to the thread.:cool:
 
There were also the Picard and LDS uniforms that they needed to build recently as well, that didn’t step on other designs
Well, they *did* step on other designs with the LDS ones, specifically as now there are two communicator designs in service in 2380. But it’s totally fine: we’ve seen different uniform designs in use at the same time (very notably in discovery season 2), no reason they couldn’t do the same with the communicators.

Simple. They wanted it to be distinct. It flowed nicely from Enterprise to Kelvin to Discovery too.
very true. But yes, it was an odd choice, marketing-wise. My guess is that they steered away from the colored uniforms to avoid people thinking the new series was connected with the Kelvin movies.
 
very true. But yes, it was an odd choice, marketing-wise. My guess is that they steered away from the colored uniforms to avoid people thinking the new series was connected with the Kelvin movies.
I don't see it as odd. It was billed as before Kirk and Spock.
 
Maybe they should just go the STO route and let everyone wear any kind of uniform from any time period they want. Even better, any kind of uniform from any military organization and any species at any time of history, real or fictional, like Keyla going full Napoleonic or Tilly trying to feel more powerful by donning a TNG era Klingon uniform.

Wouldn't be chaotic at all.
 
Yeah, the Enterprise uniforms were intended to evoke the more contemporary NASA-style flight suits to give them an "older" more utilitarian feel.

The division colours for Enterprise are basically the exact same three colours that they had been using through TNG / DS9 / VOY. They really should have thought to use more TOS-like colours (bright red, bright blue and greenish-gold) but they chose to use the burgundy, mustard and teal that they were familiar with.

In fact, it was fairly well reported at the time that they were quite a ways down the road with the designs and construction using the TNG colours before someone pointed out that to be closer to TOS they needed to flip the burgundy and mustard so that command had yellow and operations/services had red...! That's the reason that the Enterprise-era admiral uniforms still have burgundy division colour around the shoulders instead of gold -- they just never bothered to go back and rectify those, even though, to be correct, they should really have been changed to the mustard yellow, the same as Archer...!

The blue of the original Disco uniforms does, broadly, suggest an evolution from the ENT-era flight suits. Whether there were meant to be any intermediary stages we may never know...

I think DSC S3 has almost as many Starfleet uniform variants in it as TMP when you take into account all the background characters with variants of things like security and medical uniforms as well was the main standard uniforms, not to mention the various historical flashback uniforms!
 
Maybe they should just go the STO route and let everyone wear any kind of uniform from any time period they want. Even better, any kind of uniform from any military organization and any species at any time of history, real or fictional, like Keyla going full Napoleonic or Tilly trying to feel more powerful by donning a TNG era Klingon uniform.

Wouldn't be chaotic at all.
*doesn’t hate it
 
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