Spoilers The Mandalorian season 2 discussion

[Lakenheath 72]

My mother works from home. Her work assigns her classes to take, with them many of them being about corporate culture. She permits me to complete the classes for her, so when I re-enter the job market I will have an insight into this culture.

I have learned from these classes that the job or work does not end when the work day ends. It continues into the private life, with what an individual says in the social media. An individual has to act like they are constantly on the job or work. That what they write or say reflects on the corporation, and that corporation might be held accountable. It's about reputation and money for the corporation.

This actress did not have the sense to understand this. She can say anything she wants off social media, but on social media, she is a representative for Disney and has to act in the best interests of her employer. She behaved against their own interests, and Disney acted to protect itself. This is not about politics. This is about reputation and money.

Disney can weather the controversy. The corporation decided that firing her was more beneficial to them in the long-run than having her as an employee.

 

[Reverend]

Yeah, I don't think anyone was applauding Disney for their upright sense of morality here. Giant soulless corporations will giantly corporate soulessly after all.
Regardless, in this case it seems like it was Lucasfilm's call, not The Mouse. Furthermore, it's looking like the decision to ditch her was made back in November, hence nixing the announcement of her being the lead on a new show ('Rangers', we're all assuming.) They seem to have been trying to just let her go quietly without a fuss, but the latest tirade of verbal diarrhea and accompanying hashtag prompted a more direct response to make it clear where things stand.

 

[137th Gebirg]

At this point, I'm convinced that all social media should be outright banned, globally. It has hurt society far more than it's helped, and enables people of all extremist political stripes to spew their respective filth. People can be very brave with the quasi-anonymity that the web provides. Most of them wouldn't have the sand to say such things to other people's faces.

 

[fireproof78]

At this point, I'm convinced that all social media should be outright banned, globally. It has hurt society far more than it's helped, and enables people of all extremist political stripes to spew their respective filth. People can be very brave with the quasi-anonymity that the web provides. Most of them wouldn't have the sand to say such things to other people's faces.

With the impact upon depression and anxiety symptoms, especially in youngers, I complete agree with this ban.

 

[137th Gebirg]

That too, most definitely. I wonder if there is some statistic buried deep in a study somewhere, that determined how many underage suicides were attributed to social media abuse.

Of all the idiotic things the government loves to regulate, this one should be at the very top of their fucking list.

 

[fireproof78]

That too, most definitely. I wonder if there is some statistic buried deep in a study somewhere, that determined how many underage suicides were attributed to social media abuse.

Of all the idiotic things the government loves to regulate, this one should be at the very top of their fucking list.

I have no doubt the research is out there. I miss having access to articles to do up to date research

 

[Turtletrekker]

And let's not forget that Gina was not actually fired per se as she was not actually under contract with Disney. Disney just chose to not associate with her anymore.

 

[fireproof78]

Meh, the politics of it are ridiculous. Speaking out used to be OK but now, if it is unpopular, bye-bye. I am highly amused though that when Trump was in office comparing America to Nazi Germany was a daily thing. Now, apparently it is insensitive.

Dear politics, I do not understand you.

 

[Turtletrekker]

Looks like Gina Carano has already found a new job making a movie with... Ben Shapiro.

Well, that certainly is a match-made... somewhere.

https://www.cbr.com/gina-carano-dai...6h8qeU3-TW-MJXH3aoFl2ulDibC4LxN9cWh--Enio3av4

 

[Phily B]

Meh, the politics of it are ridiculous. Speaking out used to be OK but now, if it is unpopular, bye-bye. I am highly amused though that when Trump was in office comparing America to Nazi Germany was a daily thing. Now, apparently it is insensitive.

Dear politics, I do not understand you.

When Obama was in office, people were comparing him to all sorts and saying he wasn't American purely because of his skin colour and name. One of the chief proponents of this racist theory was later elected President of the US. And when people called Trump a Nazi, they didn't literally mean he was a Nazi, it was a comparison to one of the worst governments in modern Western civilization and the fact he was backed by fascists who he was actively courting and egging on, which led to what happened in the capitol. Gina Carano is saying that Republicans are comparable to the victims of the holocaust because they might get banned from private platforms for violating TOS.

You can't be this dense and ignorant. Gina Carano is a piece of shit and I'm seeing a trend with MMA/wrestler/boxing types when it comes to this nonsense, almost like spending a career getting punched in the head and suffering concussions makes you fucking dumb.

 

[Saul]

At this point, I'm convinced that all social media should be outright banned, globally. It has hurt society far more than it's helped, and enables people of all extremist political stripes to spew their respective filth. People can be very brave with the quasi-anonymity that the web provides. Most of them wouldn't have the sand to say such things to other people's faces.

Or speak up when it's happening to other people.

Meh, the politics of it are ridiculous. Speaking out used to be OK but now, if it is unpopular, bye-bye. I am highly amused though that when Trump was in office comparing America to Nazi Germany was a daily thing. Now, apparently it is insensitive.
Dear politics, I do not understand you.

I dunno, on the one hand you have rioters entering the capitol wearing t-shirts that are pro holocaust with slogans like "6 million wasn't enough" and then you have people of the same views equivocating them with victims of the holocaust. Stupidity and disgust don't even scratch the surface with these people.

 

[Reverend]

Meh, the politics of it are ridiculous. Speaking out used to be OK but now, if it is unpopular, bye-bye.

I don't think "unpopular" is exactly the adjective I'd use here. Indeed, "abhorrent" was LF's choice of phrasing, and honestly, given the full scope of what she's been spouting I'd even say that is putting it mildly.

There's a WORLD of difference between some random gobshite spouting random gobshite nonsense in the privacy of their own home, and a celebrity with an attentive and impressionable audience very loudly and publicly spouting rhetoric that can and HAS gotten people killed. Anyone that tries to use "freedom of speech" to defend this behaviour has no clue what those words actually mean.
And I'm sorry but "Trump said worse so it's OK" has got to be one of the top ten dumbest attempts at a justification I've heard in a while...and it's been one hell of a couple months for asinine rationalizations.

 

[KennyB]

Publicists.......so worth it.

 

[Noname Given]

Meh, the politics of it are ridiculous. Speaking out used to be OK but now, if it is unpopular, bye-bye. I am highly amused though that when Trump was in office comparing America to Nazi Germany was a daily thing. Now, apparently it is insensitive.

Dear politics, I do not understand you.

It's a matter of degree. Donald J Trump has done many things that Adolf Hitler did when he was in power.

However, until known Republicans start being rounded up, segregated into ghettos, and deported to internment camps where they are worked to death...
^^^
No, being a Republican in this day and age does not equate to how Jews were treated during the Nazi Holocaust in World War II.

 

[UssGlenn]

Gina Carano is saying that Republicans are comparable to the victims of the holocaust because they might get banned from private platforms for violating TOS.

That's not quite right, she was comparing conservatives to Jews in Germany before the Holocaust began, during the demonization campaign.

 

[Ithekro]

If so, they don't need a state mandated badges or word to identify...a quart of them got MAGA hats already.....

 

[Awesome Possum]

That's not quite right, she was comparing conservatives to Jews in Germany before the Holocaust began, during the demonization campaign.

It's still not comparable and deeply insulting to the actual victims of the Holocaust. They were endlessly harassed and terrorized before things turned violent. Conservatives get told they're wrong and insulted on Facebook and Twitter.

And they call liberals snowflakes.

 

[Reverend]

Bullies are always the first and loudest to claim victimhood, and to accuse others of overreaction. It's depressingly predictable.

 

[cooleddie74]

Always step on bullies.

 

[Neroon]

I strongly suggest everyone return to discussing the show and not the controversy surrounding cast members.

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