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MemoryAlpha editor refuses to change Adira's Gender to "Non-Binary"

I think when data made the line he was using it as plural. That their wasn't just one alien at the wedding but several. Jason
 
No that's just how people talked back then. Some didn't know better, or didn't care.
I used to say trandgendered as well, I think it was someone on these forums here that corrected me.
Unknowingly, not with any malice. I thought it was proper term.
 
Tuskin38 said:
Still isn't used that way. Transgender is singular and plural.
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I was confused by this but then I realize that when you say transgender aliens the plurality comes from "aliens." If you say transgendered aliens it's like saying someone is a quick fast person.

Jason
 
DonIago said:
Could have just been a slip on Spiner's part?
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The script says:

DATA:
"Ladies and Gentlemen and invited transgendered species. In my study of Terran and Betazoid conjugal rites I have discovered it is traditional to present the happy couple with a gift. Given Commander Riker's affection for archaic musical forms I have elected to present the following as my gift, in honour of... their conjugation."

Seeming to mean "species across many genders..."?

NCC-73515 said:
He also called the wedding a conjugation, and I never figured out if he was joking XD
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The script has a stage direction: "Riker shoots an amused glance to Deanna. Conjugation?"
 
Generally movies aren't recorded live as a single take either, I'm pretty sure it was intentional or they would've used a different take.
 
If it's that way in the script, that's good enough for me. I could see how if that was the best take than Spiner's slip on a word that many at the time might have construed as minor wouldn't be enough to stop them from using it.
 
I find it odd that people would even think it's a mistake. Most people didn't at the time and a lot still don't give a shit about what trans people feel or think, we're just a punchline to a joke for them. It's heartbreaking to me that Star Trek would be part of that punching down too, but it isn't surprising.
 
So the word Conjugation is the punchline? I actually had to look it up to even see what it means. It doesn't feel like something Data would say. I mean the whole scene felt off. Picard cracking jokes. Worf forgetting Romulan Ale was legal now or that he would never drink the ale of the people who killed his parents. Who are these other people at the wedding that isn't even the real wedding. Data never sang on the show so real Data would have actually played his guitar or violin. I least Geordi was saved from being a robot or was it a cyborg? Also Riker was marrying Troi instead of Seven of Nine for some reason.


Jason
 
Jayson1 said:
Worf forgetting Romulan Ale was legal now
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Worf did no such thing. He moans that Romulan Ale should be illegal, to which Geordi says "it is," clearly forgetting Romulan Ale was legalized during the Dominion War.

Then again, that could just prove the Enterprise E really didn't fight in the war at all.
 
The Wormhole said:
Worf did no such thing. He moans that Romulan Ale should be illegal, to which Geordi says "it is," clearly forgetting Romulan Ale was legalized during the Dominion War.

Then again, that could just prove the Enterprise E really didn't fight in the war at all.
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That is correct. It was Geordie who made the mistake. Unless we go with the idea Worf never knew it use to be illegal. What if they were both being dumb at the same time? Jason
 
Jayson1 said:
So the word Conjugation is the punchline? I actually had to look it up to even see what it means.
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If the "punchline" of the joke is calling the marriage a "conjugation," then using an inappropriately past-tense form of the word "transgender" would be the "setup," since conjugation refers to (among other things) the addition of a suffix to a verb to indicate it's past-tense.

That's evidence showing Data was aware about misusing the word, cryptically alluding to its incorrect conjugation.
 
krsplat said:
If the "punchline" of the joke is calling the marriage a "conjugation," then using an inappropriately past-tense form of the word "transgender" would be the "setup," since conjugation refers to (among other things) the addition of a suffix to a verb to indicate it's past-tense.

That's evidence showing Data was aware about misusing the word, cryptically alluding to its incorrect conjugation.
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I don't think they were thinking that deep on joke. I think we are supposed to think it's funny because Data is using a fancy sounding word like he tends to do being Data. So the setup is Data himself delieving the joke making it more of character based joke and one they could only use with Data due to his nature. Remember Data being a machine is often the setup to many of the jokes at his expense over the years. Jason
 
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