Spoilers WandaVision discussion thread

[JirinPanthosa]

I like it a lot so far, but obviously it's the kind of show that if it doesn't go anywhere interesting it will be un-rewatchable.

The sitcom jokes are funny, but more importantly, the little parts where the 4th wall breaks are done really well. The man is choking, the wife (The mother from 70s show, probably very intentionally) is stuck in her programmed loop of "Oh, stop it."

 

[Lakenheath 72]

I watched the first episode and part of the second. It was painful to watch because it felt like 21st century people cosplaying sitcoms from decades ago. Then, the portrayal of blacks in the second episode. Yikes. Many sitcoms were vanilla white until the late 1960s. Maybe, as they get closer to now, it might get better.

 

[theenglish]

If Wanda were attempting to create some sort of idyllic life for her and Vision, it might make sense to populate it with memories of shows she might have watched while growing up; which would explain the use of the Warner Ranch.

My guess would be as the show moves closer towards reality, the neighborhood might start looking more contemporary/realistic.

I thought this too, but would Wanda have really spent her time watching American sitcoms with her upbringing? If the show gets into that level of detail, it might be more likely that after Endgame when Wanda realized Vision wasn't coming back she holed up in her apartment watching old TV shows in a state of depression.

 

[theenglish]

I think people need to just look at the first two episodes as Act 1 of a movie. When I think about it I wonder if maybe this is one case where dropping all the episodes at once would have been the better choice. This feels like a show meant for binge watching.

Jason

I disagree. Releasing the show like this has allowed time for people to converse about the show--to pull it apart and look for clues. I've seen so many threads and online posts this weekend, and clicked on them. I would never do that for a show released all at once. Disney is getting so much buzz that is only going to build over the next eight weeks. I am sure they figured this out with The Mandalorian.

 

[theenglish]

I like it a lot so far, but obviously it's the kind of show that if it doesn't go anywhere interesting it will be un-rewatchable.

The sitcom jokes are funny, but more importantly, the little parts where the 4th wall breaks are done really well. The man is choking, the wife (The mother from 70s show, probably very intentionally) is stuck in her programmed loop of "Oh, stop it."

I think that was Wanda that made him choke. She was asked about a past that she couldn't remember and created a distraction--and the Mrs. Hart part just glitched or something. She commanded Vision to act, and then her sitcom reality re-started. Similar to what happened at the end of the second episode but more subtle.

I can see why Disney started with two episodes because I think that the first episode alone just wouldn't have set up enough of a mystery.

 

[Finn]

I started watching. hasn't finished

 

[Jayson1]

I disagree. Releasing the show like this has allowed time for people to converse about the show--to pull it apart and look for clues. I've seen so many threads and online posts this weekend, and clicked on them. I would never do that for a show released all at once. Disney is getting so much buzz that is only going to build over the next eight weeks. I am sure they figured this out with The Mandalorian.

I usually agree but I don't think they left enough clues in the first 2. From what I hear though maybe they should have dropped the first 3 instead of the first two because episode 3 is when the plot really starts to kick in.

Jason

 

[Finn]

I finally finished. As I rely on subtitles, the voice only was described as "male voice". Do any of you recognize it, perhaps from the marvel movies?

And what's with the beekepper coming out of the sewer...

 

[Gordie]

I haven't watched it yet, but planning too. Not going to read through the thread yet, but I'm hearing it's very slow, with no direction. If it's interesting, I can handle that.

 

[Finn]

^It was, until the last five minutes of the first episode, where it gets you to wonder...

 

[BillJ]

I haven't watched it yet, but planning too. Not going to read through the thread yet, but I'm hearing it's very slow, with no direction. If it's interesting, I can handle that.

Outside of the grating laugh track, I found the first two episodes pretty strong.

 

[Greylock Crescent]

Thus far, it's a thoroughly engrossing narrative. How are these two characters existing together, given what we've seen in the MCU thus far? And what of the Truman Show/Pleasantville framing of the show so far? The mystery has me hooked. Where they go from here remains to be seen. But they've created a premise that is thoroughly unique and one worth hanging onto as answers are slowly doled out.

 

[Timelord79 (he/him)]

I haven't watched it yet, but planning too. Not going to read through the thread yet, but I'm hearing it's very slow, with no direction. If it's interesting, I can handle that.

I wouldn't call it directionless.
It has some very subtle and not so subtle hints about things not being right which give the whole show an eerie Twighlight Zone/Black Mirror feel which seems to wait under the very thin surface of wholesome 50s/60s sitcom cliché world.
It doesn't spell out where exacty they are going with all this, but I definitely get a sense of dreading doom.

 

[Tuskin38]

Then, the portrayal of blacks in the second episode. Yikes.

Huh?

 

[Orphalesion]

I thought this too, but would Wanda have really spent her time watching American sitcoms with her upbringing? If the show gets into that level of detail, it might be more likely that after Endgame when Wanda realized Vision wasn't coming back she holed up in her apartment watching old TV shows in a state of depression.

American sitcoms of the 20th centuries were often shown on TV in many European countries. And since Sokovia was unstable even when Wanda and Pietro were kids it's possible she might have latched on to shows like that and their idealized depiction of safe, prosperous suburban life in the US, as a form of escapism from her real world problems even at that age, which would then make them very relevant to her mental state when she created the Wandavision reality.

 

[DarrenTR1970]

Oh wow! I just read where Dick Van Dyke was a creative consultant on 'WandaVision', making sure that they got the little details about the 'Dick Van Dyke Show' homage just right. 90+ years old and still going strong.

 

[JD]

Yeah, I just read about that on IGN, and it reminded me of something that as a fan of the Dick Van Dyke Show. In the opening of the first episode when they come into the house, Vision walks through an ottoman, which is a reference to the opening credits of the Dick Van Dyke Show's credits.

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[Kor]

I watched both episodes last night and I am enjoying the show so far, but the sitcom setting is starting to wear a bit thin. I hope the entire season isn't going to be just recycled I Love Lucy plots with a tiny tease of what's really going on until the finale. I'm ready for the payoff to start happening.

Based on the one or two trailers/sneak-peeks that have been released...

Spoiler: WandaVision

They don't stick with the I Love Lucy/Dick Van Dyke type of black and white sitcoms for the whole season, but they move into a Brady Bunch type of setting and then something that looks like Full House from the 90s. Personally, I would prefer if they stuck with the earlier sitcom pastiche, since I generally can't stand sitcoms from after that era.

Kor

 

[David cgc]

Just based on the first two episodes and some basic math, I expect that each episode will move forward about a decade in terms of the sitcoms being pastiched, with the last two episodes being set outside the illusion somehow. So the next episode will probably be in the style of the 1970s, maybe taking off of "The Brady Bunch" or "All in the Family." "Mork and Mindy" seems like a shoo-in for the episode after that.

 

[Finn]

M*A*S*H or Mork and Mindy would be epic