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Poll Rate modern Trek

Rate modern (2017-present) Star Trek?


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We've had four live action seasons and every single one was an incoherent mess. I would classify it as a total disaster.
 
We've had four live action seasons and every single one was an incoherent mess. I would classify it as a total disaster.

6 live-action seasons and 1 animated season. But I guess you're a big fan of Lower Decks and Short Treks (so am I!).
 
6 live-action seasons and 1 animated season. But I guess you're a big fan of Lower Decks and Short Treks (so am I!).
Short Treks: so-so (honestly, I completely forgot about them).
Lower Deck was fun. Being an animated comedy show, the over the top characters and crazy storylines feel at home. Also, it's an episodic show, so even if you don't like one, the next one might work.
Discovery and Picard insist on serialised storytelling, but are unable to deliver a coherent and well thought out story.
 
Lower Decks: 8.5
Short Treks: 8
Discovery season 3 (so far): 7
Discovery season 2: 6
Discovery season 1: 5.5
Picard: 4

Ready Room and After Trek also exist.

Overall that makes 6.5.
 
Star Trek: Discovery brought Trek back to weekly television (albeit via streaming) in 2017. Since then we've had Short Treks, Star Trek: Picard and Lower Decks with lots more on the horizon. How do you rate this era of Star Trek thus far?
Subpar, the stories are not interesting they feel like event presentation without much substance, everything is all surface level stuff for me and I still feel most of these serials could be told in 2 or 3 episodes than prolonging them to 10. Cinematic look is outstanding but again that is just surface, I hate the uninspired ship designs and the ugly impractical costumes worn in DISCO. As PICARD, I would expect Starfleet uniforms would appear more sleek and interesting but the focus is not about them, its about the world of Picard now in his robot life at 90.

If I had to give numbers:

DISCO - 3
TREK SHORTS - 3
PICARD - 3
Was never interested in Lower Decks and judging from that horrible animation I probably will never watch it. Ever.

Not my kind of Star Trek but I still think these things are beautiful and very movie-like and Kurtzman should be commended for making Trek look eye-candy-ish, they look cinematic.
 
Disco 1: 6
Disco 2: 9
Disco 3: 8
Picard: 6
Lower Decks: 5

Have not caught up on the shorts.

Strongly disagree that the storylines are incoherent. They're uneven, absolutely. But not difficult to explain or track at all. And the quality of the main characters makes up for the unnevenness.
 
Thanks to the money I got from the old folks at Xmas I got myself Amazon Prime and now impatiently awaiting the release of Lower Decks, the only modern Trek series that I'm actually eager to see, so I'll get to judge it soon. After that I might try the Picard pilot.
 
Now that the third season of DSC is done, and we're probably looking at a break for most of 2021, here's how I rate it season-by-season. Not including Short Treks because that's really just a collection of short films.

1) Picard, Season 1 --> 9
2) Discovery, Season 1 --> 8.5
3) Discovery, Season 2 --> 8.5
4) Discovery, Season 3 --> 8
5) Lower Decks, Season 1 --> 7

These reflect how I feel about the seasons as a whole instead of just the raw averages of the episodes in them. Because sometimes a season can be more or less than the sum of its parts. And my final evaluation of the seasons should reflect that.

And I'm going to judge them all by the same standard, just so the numbers actually mean something. I had different criteria for Lower Decks episodes during the season as it was airing (i.e. How well did the jokes land?), but I want ratings I can apply universally when comparing the different seasons of different series directly with each other.
 
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Discovery 3/10 and trending down
Picard 10/10
Lower Decks 8/10
So it's a crapshoot. So basically same as Star Trek has always been ;)
 
I can’t rate it, I’m just delighted to have Star Trek back on television and in my life. Like life itself, there are good days and not so good days, but I’m just happy to be in the game.
 
1) Picard, Season 1 --> 9

IMHO

Picard Episodes 1-7 = 9
Picard Episode 8 = 5
Picard Episodes 9,10 = 0

Picard started off so well...then... I thought the ending was so brutally horrible and stupid it really left a bad taste in my mouth.
 
IMHO

Picard Episodes 1-7 = 9
Picard Episode 8 = 5
Picard Episodes 9,10 = 0

Picard started off so well...then... I thought the ending was so brutally horrible and stupid it really left a bad taste in my mouth.
Would you say those last three episodes ruined the entire series for you in general (i.e. you're not looking forward to the rest of it) or just the season?
 
Would you say those last three episodes ruined the entire series for you in general (i.e. you're not looking forward to the rest of it) or just the season?

It’s Jean Luc Picard.

Definitely will give Season 2 a chance. He’s earned that much.

No more Soongs, robot spaghetti monsters, etc.l!!! :scream::scream::scream:
 
Rate modern Trek? How can I when it is all over the place?

I would rank them according.

Lower Decks
Short Treks
Picard
Discovery S2-S3
Discovery S1 (T’Kuvma was needlessly killed off)

Its very clear that DIS is for newbies to Trek while PIC and LD lean more to those that are a bit more hardcore in their fandom. Short Trek just fleshes out character and stories more.

I think I agree with this list completely. Bravo!

DISCO is crap. Any TV series that has to retool and reinvent itself each season is crap. DISCO and JJTrek are at the bottom of my list, along with ENT. VOY only rates higher because I was in a fan group at that time with a lot of endearing comrades, so that makes a difference. Plus, Tom Paris is one of my favorite characters.

PIC was pretty good, but fell apart at the end.

LD us great but the fan service an in-jokes break the 4th wall too much for me to take it seriously. It's more of a wonderful parody than serious Trek.
 
I’d I rated/ranked the new seasons of Star Trek based on my enjoyment level...I suppose it would be:

8.5 DSC S1
8 DSC S2
8 PIC S1
7 DSC S3
4.5 LD S1


I agree that PIC dropped off as a result the finale. If they could have avoided the “Logan’s Run television series location and androids” part of the plot, PIC could have been a 9 and in the top slot.

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Oy vey.
 
I agree that PIC dropped off as a result the finale. If they could have avoided the “Logan’s Run television series location and androids” part of the plot, PIC could have been a 9 and in the top slot.

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Oy vey.

Haha I never made the connection, until now.

i actually found the Picard finale a triumph on an emotional level, and the final Data scenes were very moving to me. But the whole planet of the androids thing was incredibly naff, and cheap looking. There were at least a couple of times on PIC where I was wondering if much of the budget had been blown on Sir Patrick’s salary.
 
Picard's launch was amazing - loved the first couple of episodes. After episode 3 I said it was the first time I'd felt like a bona fide fan of a new Trek series since DS9.

Episodes 9 and 10 negated the above. I had great fun speculating how The Borg, The Romulans, the attack on Mars, the ban, Soji etc. were all interconnected. Little did we know that the answer would be so unfulfilling and - frankly - idiotic.

Discovery: 5 / 10 (generous as I've never been much of a fan)
Picard: 4 / 10 (punishment for the last two)
Lower Decks: 7 / 10 (I stopped being a miserable bastard)

So, 16 / 30.

Lower Decks
was a strange one. I wasn't a fan at the beginning, but I finally warmed to it in the last couple of episodes.
 
Really enjoying Discovery and Picard, not going to put a rating out of 10 on them but I've never missed an episode.

Not that either of them could hold a candle to TOS/TNG at their best, though.
 
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