Poll Rate modern Trek

[1001001]

The 'cast reunion' aspect was nice and a bit.. interesting.. but I also found it overall to feel more than a little contrived and forced. Not sure I'd go to the effort to see a 2nd season of it.

To me, Picard started off so well. Interesting and challenging set-up (people swearing at Jean-Luc?! Disrespecting him?!). Seven was a great addition...and then...

Another fucking Soong? Come on...The Romulans too stupid to realize they're causing the very thing that frightened them into suicide. Riker puts down his pizza paddle to lead Starfleet (I mean seriously, have they trained no one in the past 30 years?).

And maybe, just maybe I could have dealt with all that, but when the Robot Spaghetti Monster turns out to be real? Oh, FFS. I laughed.

Then the cherry on the sundae: "Oh, gee by the way we made you a robot. No biggee. Didn't give you any strength or longevity because we knew you'd hate that." And we just casually discuss this at the coffee table for 3 minutes and it's all good.

7 really good episodes, 1 fair one, and 2 absolute shit ones.

And yes, TNG is my favorite Star Trek.

 

[F. King Daniel]

Why make him terminally ill in the first place

Respecting "All Good Things" canon.

 

[Xhiandra]

DSC is by far the worst Trek series, and the only one I gave up on. I might revisit it someday, but the writing is so terrible, at least in S1.

PIC is strange. It has good aspects. Dialogue is sometimes sharp. And sometimes horrendous.
Writing is incredibly inconsistent from scene to scene!
We're used to good and bad episodes, but with PIC it's good and bad scenes juxtaposed in the same episode. For instance, every scene with Narek and Narissa was so hokey they could have been scored with a blaring "DUN DUN DUNNN" (to be fair, that also applied to every scene with Sela in TNG - but those were uncommon).

Still, it was a season 1. None of the Trek series had very strong S1s, except arguably TOS.

Haven't seen Lower Decks (yet?).

 

[Arpy]

TNG is my favorite series, and I’m kind of of the vein that it ended with “All Good Things...” I love the comment about the JJ films being Trek-flavored fantasy, and that’s kind of adjacent to what I think of how the TNG films compare to the series — they’re TNG-flavored moovies.

PIC is certainly different from my idea of TNG, and I have issues with it, but it’s still amazing.

One, it’s a fantastical afternoon daydream come true. It Should. Not. Exist. Patrick Stewart coming back to Star Trek? Twenty years later? After he said he’d never do it again? And had moved onto successes both popular (X-Men) and critical (theater)? To play Jean-Luc Picard again? As the lead of a SERIES?!? Ladies, gentlemen, and non-binary persons, terrestrial and otherwise...this series is a cherry atop whatever sundae you can imagine.

Additionally, it’s not what you think it is. This is a series about aging. It’s a tenderer piece, tinged with the sadness of being less here. About not being that great force that once moved earth and heaven, but yet, because this is Trek, still finding a way to do just that, spectacularly, if more poignantly.

Picard’s pleading with Soji at the climax of the season to have faith in and about helping each other is as great as anything in Trek. And that it should be Picard giving his last full measure for others...to not only save all intelligent biological life in the galaxy but also the souls of the new artificial life to come....it is a death as glorious as that of the most glorious Klingon epic hero.

I look forward to SNW for more optimism, episodic storytelling, and wonderful alien planets of the week...but PIC is beautiful to this TNG diehard, and I can’t wait for next season! Oh the places it might go!

 

[Jcyberinc]

Lower Decks is great Star Trek imo and a really good example of what pushing more towards a "franchise" format should look like. Instead of rehashing the same concept over and over (not that the previous trek series truly did this), set a completely new type of show in the universe. Diversification of the franchise is what works best for me.
Fav Ep: Veritas

Discovery is very alright to me. The only thing that's rough about it to me is the acting (ugh, Burnham in S3 was hard to watch), but besides that, the plots were fun, thought-provoking at times, and the show itself is visually stunning. Also still love the batch of ships we got from the first season (my eaglemoss Shenzhou has a special place in my heart). I think I might like the first season the most, however, as it honestly features the best acting imo. As the show gets more "Star Trek" the acting quality has just gone downhill. Still very excited for season four though.
Fav Ep: Su'kal

Picard, however, angers me. It started with such great potential but ended up being a convoluted mish-mash of partially developed ideas. It had some great moments (the scene with all of the Rios holos comes to mind), but some utterly awful ones (the Icheb scene, the one where Picard just lets Seven kill Bjayzl, the death of Hugh, and the... the.. the COPY PASTE FLEET!!!). Still, I generally loved the characters (better in characterization one season than Disco's have been in 3), and have hope for a good season 2.
Fav Ep: Nepenthe

Finally, Short Treks intrigues me. Its first season was really good to me, all four episodes standing well on their own, even if a few just seemed to serve as tie-ins to the second season. The second season was also pretty good, the unique episodes like the tribble one and the animated tos one standing out as something special, the clear Pike and Picard tie-ins being just that, and the weird children's one being enjoyably weird enough that I'd probably watch it again. What really excites me is the series' future, however. Kurtzman has suggested that he wishes to see more and more unique short treks in the vein of the truly standalone eps from Seasons 1 and 2, things that flesh out the trek universe and serve no purpose other than doing that. As it stands right now, the show is fine, but a Trek anthology series has infinite potential.
Fav Ep: The Trouble with Edward

 

[cultcross]

My experience of post 2017 Trek is pretty consistent - excitement, followed by hope, followed by disappointment to one degree or another.

Discovery consistently gives the lowest lows and while season 3 was better, it's still frustratingly uneven and prone to self congratulatory monologues about how clever and meaningful it all is.
Picard was much more enjoyable and well written, but was let down by its stumble at the end.
Lower Decks is divertingly original but I don't find it funny and I didn't connect in the way others did. It's ok.


So overall, a 6. Watchable TV, but nothing special. I generally find the experience of watching better than ENT, which I gave up on until many years later, but it doesn't evoke the same love as older Trek. All three series lean heavily on the crutch of nostalgia. If I wasn't an existing Trek fan, I wouldn't be watching.

 

[USS Firefly]

I have only watched three episodes of lower decks and It isn't my kind of humor.

Discovery is just ok. We just don't like Burnham, she is a little bit to much, and we find her not interesting. My wife and I are not sure if we continue to watch Discovery

I like Picard but it kind of lost me in the last couple of episodes.