DC Movies - To Infinity and Beyond

[Christopher]

Yeah, even though something apparently did happen during production of Justice League the way Fisher has gone about all of this has not helped his image.

I don't think the "something" was anything more than some rude behavior and personality clashes, hardly something criminal or whatever the fans seem to want to blow it up into. The reshoots sound like they weren't a pleasant experience for anyone involved -- best just to let it go and move on.

 

[Mr. Adventure]

I'm just picturing them over at DC/WB going "Oh, noes!" when Fisher says he won't work with them anymore. "Whatever shall we do?"

 

[StCoop]

I'm just picturing them over at DC/WB going "Oh, noes!" when Fisher says he won't work with them anymore. "Whatever shall we do?"

Plus it assumes that they ever had any intention of every hiring him again.

It says a lot that he's only had two acting jobs since 'Justice League' and one of those was reshooting 'Justice League'.

 

[JD]

I don't think the "something" was anything more than some rude behavior and personality clashes, hardly something criminal or whatever the fans seem to want to blow it up into. The reshoots sound like they weren't a pleasant experience for anyone involved -- best just to let it go and move on.

Good point.

 

[thribs]

Just finished watching BvS again to treat myself for New Years. I noticed a interesting line in it where Lex says he has been tormenting Bruce for 2 years. Considering this is only 18 months after MoS he must have another reason for doing so. My theory is that Bruce interferes with one of his plans without knowing and that got his attention. Probably to ruin the image of the Bat.

Rumor has it that March is when JL comes out so it’s not long to wait for the next part.

 

[Morpheus 02]

And the Ray Fisher saga continues https://variety.com/2020/film/news/...sSrKEol3XMgC_puLfoJ_XBrtcP8WnQhBKPW_o8chTP9Fk

Given that Hamada will be involved in everything DC-related they're going to make, it's an either he goes or I go situation, and I wouldn't bet on Fisher. You're ended Joss Whedon's career Ray, why not take the win and move on.

Because he needs his solo movie???

Why not just say: "Ray Fischer's career as far as WB's DC films is over. (And this probably ain't going to help him land other roles anywhere else, but time will tell.)"

He wasn't a bad actor... but did he EVER connect with the fans? Did he even care about them?

It’s very telling that most of Fisher’s Twitter posts are after news is released from Warner Bros. Specifically when there is no mention of future work for him. Or any comment which is perceived as a slight against his buddy Snyder.

The article does not say that comment about Snyder having no future with WB came from Hamada. Yet he goes in to attack mode.

There are two separate issues here. His experience doing the reshoots on JL. Which Hamada was not involved. So clearly the real issue - regardless of his claims of not caring about a film career, is him expecting a solo film. So he goes after the guy who he expects to green light it.

Ultimately -- i think THIS is the REAL issue. I am typing this in Chicago with 2 hours to go until 2021.... Finishing the year that the Cyborg movie was supposed to come out. The FLash movie at least had a couple of directors attached. Cyborg didn't even have a false start! I am thinking that FIscher blames Whedon on making Cyborg so lackluster that people weren't excited for his movie.

Fisher's issues with Hamada appear to stem from Hamada not throwing Geoff Johns under a bus when Fisher believes that Johns had a role in what he (Fisher) claims was his mistreatment on the Justice League set.

Which is weird to me... Patty Jenkins, meanwhile, had complimented Johns significantly when the first WW movie was coming out. And my view is that Johns was supposed to be the DCFU version of Kevin Feige, but was ignored and the deference was given to Snyder instead

I don't think the "something" was anything more than some rude behavior and personality clashes, hardly something criminal or whatever the fans seem to want to blow it up into. The reshoots sound like they weren't a pleasant experience for anyone involved -- best just to let it go and move on.

From what i see with Marvel actors vs DC (at least as a group)... they have A LOT MORE fun together. If Whedon brought any of that attitude , as well as love for other genre works (such as the "battle" over using "Boo-yah), i can see how it clashed with FIscher's seriousness.

I'm just picturing them over at DC/WB going "Oh, noes!" when Fisher says he won't work with them anymore. "Whatever shall we do?"

Find another black character to replace him... too bad they are going hyper-multiverse with the DCFU...Black Lightning would be awesome!

 

[Noname Given]

He wasn't a bad actor... but did he EVER connect with the fans? Did he even care about them?

My comment had nothing to do with his acting ability per se. It's the fact by making such a stink about how he felt he was treated on set, and that he's publicly stated he won't work on any project run by a WB studio head; No studio or production is going to want to use him because he's shown he's a prima donna - IE as soon as he feels he's not being treated as he should, he'll publicly shit all over your project in the media...

He doesn't have the fame or box office drawing power that's going to want to make any semi-large project take the risk of hiring him for a part.

 

[Christopher]

My comment had nothing to do with his acting ability per se. It's the fact by making such a stink about how he felt he was treated on set, and that he's publicly stated he won't work on any project run by a WB studio head; No studio or production is going to want to use him because he's shown he's a prima donna - IE as soon as he feels he's not being treated as he should, he'll publicly shit all over your project in the media...

Yes, exactly. I liked his performance in Justice League, and was hoping to see more of him as Cyborg, so it's sad to see him committing career suicide with his public comments.

 

[TREK_GOD_1]

Yeah, even though something apparently did happen during production of Justice League the way Fisher has gone about all of this has not helped his image.

What happened was Whedon--a man with a long history of personal and professionally unsavory behavior--was abusive on the JL set, and of course, was the worst kind of director anyone could have hired for the film. As for Fisher, WarnerMedia's earlier statement:

"WarnerMedia appreciates you having the courage to come forward and assist the company with creating an inclusive and equitable work environment for its employees and partners.”

...was Fisher's credit for legitimacy in this matter, and that should--at the least--give him some support in this latest matter.

 

[kirk55555]

And the Ray Fisher saga continues https://variety.com/2020/film/news/...sSrKEol3XMgC_puLfoJ_XBrtcP8WnQhBKPW_o8chTP9Fk

Does anyone really care? He was easily the worst actor in the JL cast, and that wasn't Whedon's fault. The guy is absolutely joyless and incapable of emoting, even by the standards of an actor expecting to make a Snyder movie. I'd prefer he takes Ezra Miller with him (especially after the stuff about Miller that has came out), but I doubt anyone will miss Fisher.

What happened was Whedon--a man with a long history of personal and professionally unsavory behavior--was abusive on the JL set, and of course, was the worst kind of director anyone could have hired for the film. As for Fisher, WarnerMedia's earlier statement:

No, Zach Snyder was the worst director anyone could have hired for the film, or any film outside of that Ayn Rand shit he's trying to make now. That isn't to excuse any potential abuse, but Whedon as a film maker is much more skilled then Snyder in literally every way possible, if he'd been on Justice League from the beginning it would have been at least a decent flick. Snyder never was going to make a good JL film, and now he's going to produce another joyless pile of unheroic, Objectivist inspired crap as a four hour mini series that most people will hate and will definitely not justify its additional budget.

 

[Ovation]

Does anyone really care? He was easily the worst actor in the JL cast, and that wasn't Whedon's fault. The guy is absolutely joyless and incapable of emoting, even by the standards of an actor expecting to make a Snyder movie. I'd prefer he takes Ezra Miller with him (especially after the stuff about Miller that has came out), but I doubt anyone will miss Fisher.



No, Zach Snyder was the worst director anyone could have hired for the film, or any film outside of that Ayn Rand shit he's trying to make now. That isn't to excuse any potential abuse, but Whedon as a film maker is much more skilled then Snyder in literally every way possible, if he'd been on Justice League from the beginning it would have been at least a decent flick. Snyder never was going to make a good JL film, and now he's going to produce another joyless pile of unheroic, Objectivist inspired crap as a four hour mini series that most people will hate and will definitely not justify its additional budget.

Yawning. Intensifies.

 

[JD]

What happened was Whedon--a man with a long history of personal and professionally unsavory behavior--was abusive on the JL set, and of course, was the worst kind of director anyone could have hired for the film. As for Fisher, WarnerMedia's earlier statement:



...was Fisher's credit for legitimacy in this matter, and that should--at the least--give him some support in this latest matter.

Even though stuff, which we still don't even know the details of, did happen on set, there were still better ways he could have gone about all of this. It just makes him look like he can't handle things not being perfect, and will bring even the slightest grievance out into the public. So yeah, not exactly the greatest look when you're just starting out.

 

[Kai "the spy"]

The Flash movie is slated to start filming in April in the UK.

 

[dupersuper]

No, Zach Snyder was the worst director anyone could have hired for the film, or any film outside of that Ayn Rand shit he's trying to make now. That isn't to excuse any potential abuse, but Whedon as a film maker is much more skilled then Snyder in literally every way possible, if he'd been on Justice League from the beginning it would have been at least a decent flick. Snyder never was going to make a good JL film, and now he's going to produce another joyless pile of unheroic, Objectivist inspired crap as a four hour mini series that most people will hate and will definitely not justify its additional budget.

Indeed!

Yawning. Intensifies.

Yawning is...kinda' like discussing the points brought up, I guess...

 

[Ovation]

Indeed!



Yawning is...kinda' like discussing the points brought up, I guess...

Yawning is the appropriate response to a certain variety of points. I stand by each yawn with conviction.

 

[dupersuper]

Yawning is the appropriate response to a certain variety of points. I stand by each yawn with conviction.

If I partook in this stupid yawning trope, I'd yawn at conviction to yawning.

 

[Ovation]

If I partook in this stupid yawning trope, I'd yawn at conviction to yawning.

Good. You are free to dismiss what you like and to do so with whatever degree of intensity you wish.

Yawn away. I shall certainly continue to do so when appropriate.

 

[Anwar]

The Flash movie is slated to start filming in April in the UK.

Bout time!

 

[F. King Daniel]

I'm pretty sure the early Snyder Cut rumors were

Spoiler: Cyborg

He dies, the scene where his leg it torn off was repurposed from him being torn in half

So I suspect he wasn't coming back anyway.

 

[Morpheus 02]

I'm pretty sure the early Snyder Cut rumors were

Spoiler: Cyborg

He dies, the scene where his leg it torn off was repurposed from him being torn in half

So I suspect he wasn't coming back anyway.

Spoiler: Cyborg "future"

That seems pretty bizarre, considering his defense of Snyder. So did Snyder re-edit that upon FIsher's request? And 2020 was the year for the CYborg solo movie? Seemed like Snyder was supposed to be a reason why FIsher would have gotten a solo movie?