BBC & Big Finish team-up for 'Time Lord Victorious' project

[Brendan Moody]

I sat down and half-watched episodes 2-5 of the Daleks animated series today. As a collection of pew-pew-pew noises, Dalek voices, and animated explosions, it had a certain charm, and I’m not sure how much more one can expect from a free YouTube animation. It’s pretty sharply removed from the rest of TLV: this leads into the Titan comic, which in turn leads into the Eighth Doctor audios, but none of them have much to do with each other despite featuring the same Dalek “characters.” I don’t get any fanboy thrill off of the Mechonoids, but I did like the voice acting from Mohindra and Antoine.

 

[thribs]

I've finished the second book. I agree with the previous post with it being the only story so far that actually connects some of the other stories. Like the first book, it's very short at only 200 pages with a very large font. The writing style was a bit odd; with the constant jumping from one scenario to another and every scene being told very quickly. It made the story confusing in some places.
I also finished the final 8th Doctor audio story which had me confused at first as I wasn't sure where it took place. It wasn't until I listened to the BTS material at the end was that made clear; being set just after the second novel. The story itself was fine with the best part being all the different Daleks bickering with each other.

I've read/listened to the majority of the Victorious story now and I would say Genetics of the Daleks was the best story. I just wish the stories were connected better overall.

 

[Emperor-Tiberius]

So what is the Time Lord Victorious story about?

 

[thribs]

So what is the Time Lord Victorious story about?

The 10th Doctor losing it and nearly wiping out an entire race of aliens in the Dark Times, leading to the 8th and 9th Doctors going back to stop him. That’s the basic premise of the story with the other stories explaining how the different characters got to this situation.

 

[Nightowl1701]

^^^ Specifically, the alien race that introduced Death itself (as in aging and lifespans) to what was, up until then, a universe of practically immortal (barring accidents) beings.

 

[Turtletrekker]

So, if you wanted the main story all you really have to do is read the books?

 

[thribs]

So, if you wanted the main story all you really have to do is read the books?

Pretty much.

 

[Emperor-Tiberius]

So, I got the McGann audios, Tom Baker's Genetics of the Daleks and the short trips. Do I only really need the Tenth Doctor comicbook and the 8/9/10 book to get the most of the story?

 

[thribs]

So, I got the McGann audios, Tom Baker's Genetics of the Daleks and the short trips. Do I only really need the Tenth Doctor comicbook and the 8/9/10 book to get the most of the story?

Just the two 8/9/10 novels. That’s where the meat of the story is. The first 2 of the 8th Doctor audios are set before the novels and the third afterwards, with the 4th Doctor story acting as a epilogue.
I’m not sure where the Short Trips lie.

 

[Emperor-Tiberius]

Just the two 8/9/10 novels. That’s where the meat of the story is. The first 2 of the 8th Doctor audios are set before the novels and the third afterwards, with the 4th Doctor story acting as a epilogue.
I’m not sure where the Short Trips lie.

Great, thanks!

 

[20fridge]

I’m not sure where the Short Trips lie.

They are entirely peripheral. Both feature the Master using some element from the other stories for his own evil ends. Master Thief especially, makes more sense after the 8th Doctor audios, but does not add much in return.

 

[Allyn Gibson]

Physical distribution of various parts of Time Lord Victorious to the United States is starting to happen; Doctor Who Magazine #556 arrived in comic shops this week, the Annual arrives next week, and the novels arriving next month.

Yesterday, I sat down and read "Monstrous Beauty" part one, the DWM comic strip with the ninth Doctor and Rose. Frankly, I thought it was relentlessly average.

It doesn't do anything wrong, but it also doesn't do anything really interesting. The art's a bit on the bland side -- DWM has had a "look" for twenty-five years, and this is firmly smack-dab in the middle of it -- and the story is your basic "base under siege" template with "companion kidnapped" variant. Setting it in the Dark Times doesn't make it any different than any other story of that type. I can't even say I cared about -- nor was given any reason to -- about the guest cast.

I guess there's some novelty is a new comic strip adventure with the ninth Doctor and Rose solo, which we've not had in fifteen years. (Titan used the Rose and Jack team, and added a new companion to that dynamic.) But Nine and Rose solo is not a dynamic I enjoy a great deal -- Nine is the traumatized, impotent Doctor, and Rose by herself can be aggressively arrogant, which she very much so is here -- so the novelty doesn't do a lot for me.

Maybe parts two and three, whenever they arrive, will be an improvement.

 

[JD]

Did the e-books of the novels come out before the paper books? Because they first one's been out since a October, and the second one came out a couple weeks ago.

 

[Allyn Gibson]

Did the e-books of the novels come out before the paper books? Because they first one's been out since a October, and the second one came out a couple weeks ago.

Yeah, the ebooks came out simultaneous with the UK publication. But I can get the print copies for wholesale prices through work, so it's cheaper for me to buy physical rather than digital. And thus I wait.

Fortunately, my copy of Knight is shipping soon -- I can see, looking at invoices, that it's shipped -- so I'll have in early January.

 

[Markonian]

Noob question here.
I got the Emperor Dalek figure from Eaglemoss. Was my first ever DW purchase from that collection, and I was surprised the accompanying magazine actually included a short story.

Is the Eaglemoss content an addition to the TLV story, or a recap? Have that Emperor and the Strategist ever appeared before?

 

[Allyn Gibson]

Noob question here.
I got the Emperor Dalek figure from Eaglemoss. Was my first ever DW purchase from that collection, and I was surprised the accompanying magazine actually included a short story.

Is the Eaglemoss content an addition to the TLV story, or a recap? Have that Emperor and the Strategist ever appeared before?

The short stories with the figures are part of the Dalek thread of TLV and give insight into what the Daleks want with the Dark Times. You'll earn things about the Daleks here that you won't learn elsewhere.

There have been gold-domed Emperors before, but this one (the Restoration Emperor, IIRC) is new. The Strategist is, AFAIK, new.

 

[thribs]

This might be helpful:

 

[JD]

I'm pretty sure this was covered up thread, but I don't feel like searching through 13 pages for an answer. Do we ever seen the different doctor interact or are they all in their own separate stories?

 

[Markonian]

This might be helpful:

Thank you, that is super useful!

 

[Brendan Moody]

I'm pretty sure this was covered up thread, but I don't feel like searching through 13 pages for an answer. Do we ever seen the different doctor interact or are they all in their own separate stories?

The Doctors interact very briefly at the end of the first novel, and frequently throughout the second novel. Two of them also interact in one of the Comic Creator app stories that happens during the events of the novel. I believe that’s it. The Big Finish release with both Tennant and McGann is two separate but related stories and doesn’t feature them interacting.